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[Dierdre]

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/breast-cancer/risk-factors#heading-Five

Where do they get these statistics from and how on earth do they determine what actually caused the cancer when you could be in any or more than one of the criteria. Looking at the choices we are all in at least one!  Who funds this research?

[CLKD]

Morning.  That's the 1st thing to query - who provides any Funding?  Many years ago we were told by the Media that sugar is good for us: funded by the British Sugar Corporation 

At least you know that you are fine Jules. 

[Dierdre]

I think there is far too much of this, everywhere on social media telling us  all the risks of doing this, eating that will cause cancer, heart disease etc, etc. I'm sick of it!
We are all going to die of something, I don't need reminding everyday of all the different reasons, as if we have a choice and if we choose their product or diet etc we will live forever.
No wonder I'm suffering from health anxiety..

[CLKD]

As a recovering anorexic I eat what I fancy at that moment in time.  Recently: now in my late 60s: I've been warned about type2 diabetes, however - the statins are contributing to raised blood sugar results!

Phobic anxiety has ruined my Life at times ..........  which is why grazing keeps me more or less stable.

When I underwent treatment for breast disease a few people asked whether I would be changing my diet: well no - what's laid down after birth can't be altered although we can make improvements over the years.  Apart from the oncologist saying at my last appt., "No HRT for you Young Lady" nothing was mentioned about lifestyle 

Paternal grandma's advice: A little of what U fancy does you good ;-). 

How R U Jules?

Certain cancers occur at different ages apparently.  Many women live with rather than die from late onset breast disease ........

[Dierdre]

I've been reading information about breast cancer incidence and risks,  especially after listening to Ann Diamond last night, I could feel her trauma. Its the 4th time in 10 years ive had breast assessment and it gets scarier evety time.  I read this about incidence etc in those on HRT and after menopause.  Statistics aren't easy to interpret but these look worrying albeit it doesn't distinguish between systemic hrt and vaginal.

Had my last mammogram a couple of years ago and probably won't go for another, think they end at 70. Reading the stats on the link even mammograms can cause cancer,  I don't understand how they could prove that one. My sister had them regularly, never missed but it didn't pick up her cancer and according to category on the cancer reseach link could have caused it. Most people find the lump or symptom theirselves and that's a fact not a statistic.
If it stresses you so much do you really have to go for these tests? It sounds like this really worries you a lot. Have you had breast cancer before?

[Dierdre]

Glad you have a good outcome. This may reassure you .

https://www.newsonhealth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Breast-cancer-and-HRT-Feb-22-update.pdf

https://www.newsonhealth.co.uk/statement-on-hrt-and-breast-cancer/


PMx

This looks more up to date, hope you read this Jules and feel better. I did.

[CLKD]

Very often these Papers are so scientifically written that the Man in the Street won't be able to interpret them.  I have to hand such articles to DH who has a scientific background.

Also: if treatment is NICE approved on the NHS that's the place to begin.  Yes radiation can cause cancers; whilst undergoing treatment and follow ups I had lots of mammograms - still here!  And yes, we are in control of our bodies so can always say 'give me a few weeks to consider' or a simply 'no, not now'. Which is what I did when I had a vaginal polyp which bled on contact.  Private Gyanea wanted to remove ASAP even though it wasn't expected to be sinister: I knew him well enough to joke "Does this mean that you want an exotic holiday if it's not sinister?"  I never went back and shortly after he retired and I don't [as an aside] like his replacement. 

The polyp dispersed when I went into peri.  . crikey that's a meander 

[Jules]

Thanks everyone. I do wonder about mammograms. I was told they are only as good as the day they were taken. 9 years ago I had around 30 samples taken by vacuum biopsy following a routine mammogram but they found no cancer. It was extremely stressful  and I was black and blue. I'll probably only get one more call now as I'm 65. Re the stats, it is hard to know what advice to follow and I think any change should be followed up. The breast care nurses were not very helpful. I'm making a request for more vagifem today. Regarding the dosage, I had sex last night for the first time in 10 months and despite the vagufem and my antibiotic I still have that mild feeling of needing the loo. Does ovestin help that? I'm fine otherwise.  It might be easier to retire from sex as well as mammograms😊

[CLKD]

Stop reading on the net - mammograms and other age-related tests save lives!  I would never hesitate in following up on requests.

Ovestin will help - do read the 'bladder issue's and vaginal atrophy threads where you will see how appropriate VA treatment helps ease symptoms.

[Ayesha]

I think Vagifem, Ovestin and feminine moisturisers are an absolute wonder and have given me back a part of my life I thought was over, even doing a bit of gardening I would end up with chronic pain and the constant need to pee, I didn't realise that I was slowly closing up down there causing lots of horrible symptoms.

Now I can say I am back to living a normal life even to the extent of being able to have Epsom salt baths with a drop of lavender oil to relieve my muscle aches.
I may be intolerant to most meds taken by mouth, but thank goodness VA treatment has been nothing short of a blessing and a cure.
It's so sensitive down there that if I am ill or over-do the Epsom salts it will cause a mild flare up but nothing compared to what it once was.

In answer to your question, Jules, Vagifem, Ovestin with constant use will help with any VA conditions.

[CLKD]

    Ayesha

[Dierdre]

Thanks everyone. I do wonder about mammograms. I was told they are only as good as the day they were taken. 9 years ago I had around 30 samples taken by vacuum biopsy following a routine mammogram but they found no cancer. It was extremely stressful  and I was black and blue. I'll probably only get one more call now as I'm 65. Re the stats, it is hard to know what advice to follow and I think any change should be followed up. The breast care nurses were not very helpful. I'm making a request for more vagifem today. Regarding the dosage, I had sex last night for the first time in 10 months and despite the vagufem and my antibiotic I still have that mild feeling of needing the loo. Does ovestin help that? I'm fine otherwise.  It might be easier to retire from sex as well as mammograms😊

Think you definately need to up the dose, 2 a week would do nothing for me. Ovestin is great for the exterior bits and I find applying around the urethra and bladder wall help with bladder issues better than Vagifem. Both together work best, inside and out.

[Dierdre]

Stop reading on the net - mammograms and other age-related tests save lives!  I would never hesitate in following up on requests.

Ovestin will help - do read the 'bladder issue's and vaginal atrophy threads where you will see how appropriate VA treatment helps ease symptoms.

I wonder why they stop mammagrams and cervical smears when we get older? Is is cost or are we less likely to get cancer then. I thought it was more likely.

[CLKD]

Women are less likely to get cancer as we age. Apparently. We can request investigations directly.

[sheila99]

IMO the biggest problem with most of the research is that don't identify the risks for different types of hrt. We know transdermal is much safer than the old horse urine oral hrt but most studies lump them all in together. And often they're not based on new research, they just read other antiquated studies and base it on those. It's a few years since I looked but I could find very few studies based on transdermal hrt.