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CLKD

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What is being English?
« on: February 02, 2023, 09:49:47 PM »

I know that I am English.  Although I haven't traced my family far back, I know that up until the late 1700s we are "English".  Middle-class education, basics and no languages.  We went to further education if we wanted to pursue a career, otherwise it was the land or factories. 

A little French in ballet class. 

When I lived in Wales I never thought of myself in another country - visiting Scotland is easy: because we are joined with no obvious Borders.  No passport required.  Had I known that I was going to live in Wales for a long time, I would have tackled the language.  I experienced passive/aggressive aggravation .......

4 me it's the areas of England that R fun: Cornish pasties; Yorkshire puds; scones - jam or cream first? ; fish and chips on the coast  ........ pin ball machines on a wet day.  Also because not many went abroad whilst I was growing up we had nothing much to compare with?

Different kinds of enclosures across England: dry stone walls, hedging, metal or wooden fencing ......... 

Architecture - much is left over from the Norman Conquest, i.e. Churches and Cathedrals. Where fire didn't sweep through, there are many Tudor buildings.  Our history is everywhere to see, whether it's the tiles that are used, landed Estates such as Chatsworth ........ what I feel is being 'me'.  I can't explain what 'me' means. 
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jaypo

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2023, 08:25:53 AM »

Don't know clkd,I'm Scottish  ;D
My ancestors were vikings and my maiden name is very Nordic,my dads side was from the far north, I grew up in Caithness,my grandfather owned a farm up there and a lot of the places were named by the vikings e.g Thrumster,Lybster & Scrabster to name a few,all meaning North Star.
So you can see where my "naughtiness " comes from now clkd  ;D
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Songbird

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2023, 09:49:12 AM »

Yep. Songbird was born in Scotland but proud to be British - just saying  ;D
Born in the capital, had a gran who made kilts for the Scottish rugby team, was glad to get shot of my maiden surname as it was always laughed at when calling the register at school  >:( and I like the sound of bagpipes (probably in the minority, I know!  ;D)
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CLKD

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2023, 09:53:16 AM »

England doesn't have an identity as the other countries making up the UK.  Ours are more regional: well dressing - Derbyshire; cheese rolling - Gloucestershire; dwyle flunking - Norfolk  ..........
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jaypo

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2023, 10:11:56 AM »

Scotland- alcohol  ;D
I like the bagpipes too songbird but not one on it's own,I love a pipe band with the drums etc.
Yep I'm British,not sure about being proud to be mind you.
Having lived in Wiltshire for 13 years (give or take) it's hard to judge England's identity,I suppose because it's so much bigger than Scotland,each region seems different,in attitudes I mean,whereas the Scots are pretty much the same wherever you go,they kinda,say it how it is,if you know what I mean. I loved my time in England though and hopefully we'll all stay together   :-X
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Songbird

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2023, 10:58:18 AM »

Yep Jaypo, good point re being proud to be British at the moment 🤨 ;)
Forgot one thing re Scotland - haggis - yummy yummy on my postmenopausal tummy  ;D
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jaypo

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2023, 11:52:14 AM »

🤢🤢🤮🤮
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CLKD

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2023, 12:27:00 PM »

I have never managed to catch a haggis ............. all that running through wet heather is Oh! So! Tiring  ;D

I wonder whether England has been infiltrated by more cultures than the rest of the UK?  Showing a lack of historical knowledge here.
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jaypo

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2023, 01:20:12 PM »

I think England is far more diverse than Scotland,I don't mean the cities here but north of Inverness but then it's way less populated there
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Songbird

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2023, 01:52:38 PM »

I have never managed to catch a haggis ............. all that running through wet heather is Oh! So! Tiring  ;D

I wonder whether England has been infiltrated by more cultures than the rest of the UK?  Showing a lack of historical knowledge here.

Ah, CLKD, you have to know what bait to use to catch a haggis. I'm an official breeder up here
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Joaniepat

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2023, 02:15:51 PM »

I was bread and buttered in London and think of myself as a Londoner before anything else (English or British). However, I can take any amount of bagpipes and haggis, though sadly not the whisky these days 😥.

Songbird, do you do mail order when your haggis are ripe? 😂 (And I had no idea the Scottish rugby team played in kilts, I should pay more attention! 🤣)

Jaypo, you have just reminded me of seeing the massed pipe bands on the telly, marching down to the late Queen's funeral. Truly a magnificent sound and sight, and somehow quite terrifying! Proves the Scots have style!

JP x
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jaypo

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2023, 02:38:33 PM »

Haha,isn't it the case joaniepat,that when we were at war with England,the English were put off guard by the kilted Scots running towards them?  ;D Mind you,if they all looked like Mel Gibson, I'd be running towards them  ;D
Has your haggis got the two short legs on one side songbird  ;D
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Songbird

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2023, 03:10:23 PM »

Well, JP, I might need to look at mail order (such is the demand for this delicacy  ;D). My gran had to insist that the lads were to wear pants under their kilts before running on to Twickenham  ;D ;D….
Nope Jaypo, I bred the 2 short legs out of my breeding stock long ago  ;D….
Geez, I need a doctor quick  :rofl:
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CLKD

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2023, 03:39:06 PM »

I thought that they required two short and two long to stop them sliding down the hill  ??? 8).  I prefer those with short coats ......... the long hair gets into the teeth  ;D

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Re: What is being English?
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2023, 03:43:47 PM »

 :rofl: you're supposed to singe it off first, CLKD!
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