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[CrispyChick]

Anyone any ideas on how to solve this bout?

It was brought on by a hormonal change - I'm in peri, and trying new things for my various issues. But now I can't get rid of this bout of gastritis. It's been about 6 weeks.

I've tried famotidine (h2 blocker) which has worked for me in the past (ppi have made me worse before - I do t like them) But the famotidine seems to be making  me worse this time, but in a different way - gives, me a very bad hollow feeling and severe heartburn. My gastritis is knawing and nausea with reflux and burps.

So, I assumed, as the h2 blocker made my symptoms worse, I was perhaps suffering low acid instead - as is well documented. Nope. One hcl tablet later made me worse. Plus also I had a, dreadful day after taking a high dose vit c tablet (acid!)

So I stopped all these things. I started zinc l carnosine 2 weeks ago. But it's doing nothing. Now, I was happy waiting for it to do its thing, but this week I've got worse again. Much more nausea and discomfort.

Any ideas, anyone? I'm pretty sure the hormonal impact that started this has rebalanced back the other way - just not sure why I can't clear this gastritis.

Any ideas much appreciated. X

[Flossieteacake]

Perhaps Gaviscon would be helpful. I would also take a probiotic. I take optibac everyday and find them brilliant.

I am sorry you are suffering with this.

[CrispyChick]

Thanks flossieteacake.

I'm taking a probiotic. Have been through all this. Yes, maybe I just need to reach for the over the counter stuff and let it heal...

It's the nausea that gets me though. Not sure gaviscon would help that.

I'm also concerned about long term implications of just leaving it...  .

[CLKD]

Gastritis - anything with 'itis' is an infected area: appendicitis, laryngitis .......... mayB speak to a Pharmacist?  R U vomiting?  If so a drug to stop the reflex action would be helpful.

Let us know how you get on. 

[Ayesha]

I was diagnosed with gastritis caused by the colonoscopy prep lasting six weeks. GP prescribed Gaviscon to be taken before meals four times a day.

The thing with gastritis is, it can come back. I've got mine under control but it will raise its ugly head if I have a roast potato, nothing else I eat seems to affect me.  PPI's also help me with this condition.
 

[dangermouse]

I would stop all supplements as many can cause either low/high acid, gallbladder stimulation or gas which causes reflux. Particularly probiotics.

I am prone to gastritis due to slow transit and certain foods also cause too much gas for me such as lactose, some raw fruit and veg like carrots, oranges, cucumber.

Using acid blockers can initially help but then you can't digest easily so the irritation from churning the food over and over then causes more abrasions. Now and again I will take one Pantoprazole (the strongest PPI) and try not to eat too much for 24 hours and that will allow any small ulcers/gastritis tissue to heal. Any more than one will cause a build up of undigested food.

I also cannot take digestive enzymes as they burn and then cause gastritis but ox bile is more manageable.

If you are constipated then a large dose of magnesium oxygen powder or lots of salt water can clear both your small and large intestines, as blockages can also cause food to keep coming up rather than down.

Peppermint can also cause issues with relaxing the valve that protects your oesophagus from stomach acid in some people. I had some mint chocolates over Christmas and kept getting reflux.

Some people do ok with Gaviscon but it's never worked for me for some reason, it just makes the food even less likely to digest.

Hormones will obviously have a big impact - pregnancy causes similar issues as transit is slowed down to absorb more nutrients so it could be your digestive system withdrawing from all the progesterone, that will take at least a full month.

Hope something there helps, it's very personal though like hormones!

[CLKD]

Peppermint can cause reflux though some suck sweeties to help  .

Drinking salted water may initiate vomiting: it's what is used in A&E to clear the gut when a child has swallowed some things. 

dangermouse ox bile  

As oestrogen levels drop so muscles may become  lax = hiatus hernia.  Common in peri-menopause. My reflux has no rhyme or reason, nothing in particular seems to trigger it so I can't monitor what I eat  .    Ginger has caused a persistent cough since October, shame as I love it!

[CrispyChick]

Thanks for helping ladies.

Dangermouse - that's very interesting about probiotics. Everything I read says they can help with gastritis. That said, I know I took a very high dose years ago and it didn't agree with me - can't recall the symptoms though.

This time I started the probiotics (with prebiotic) at the beggining of Oct. No probs. Then my hormonal change dropped my estrogen drastically, which seemed to trigger this gastritis.

That said, I went off down the histamine intolerance route last month and, as a result, swapped my probiotics. I've just checked and by swapping I increased from 1.5 billion to 10 billion!!! So I suppose its possible this change is compounding the gastritis problem. Thanks for that heads up.

Anyone got view on zinc l carnosine? I know it's meant to help heal the gastric lining, but if it's possible I'm low acid... Maybe it's not a good idea.

The acid blockers, even at tiny dose, are making my stomach very sore. So they're clearly not right for this episode.

X

[Ayesha]

It seems to me that suffering with gastritis appears to be a very individual thing, what remedy works for one won’t necessarily work for another, and again it’s all about trial and error.  I still take supplements, zinc, B12, probiotics, vitamin D. I keep well away from anything acidic. 

I am flummoxed as to why a roast potato/chips will wake me in the night with a burning stomach, all since drinking that disgusting colonoscopy prep.
I’m guessing it’s because the potato is coated, albeit sparingly, in oil??

[CLKD]

Potatoes are part of a specific plant group?  So mayB if you ate any of that group you would have symptoms. 

There is another condition - Hpylori ? which may need investigation. 

[CrispyChick]

Thanks CLKD. Yes, I've had an hpylori test a few weeks ago. Negative.

[CLKD]

That's important to knock that idea on the head.  It's usually treated with long-term ABs.

[Smokey]

Hi ladies

I’ve had a flare up of what I think is gastritis again,to make things worse I’m also getting really painful hunger pains about 2 hours after eating it’s worse after tea yesterday I had toad in the hole with mashed potatoes and veg and cleared my plate but I was still hungry which is very unlike me as I’m only a small eater,I tried to fill up with a cup of tea which worked for a bit but then by 7pm I was starving again, so had bareakfast cereal.

I’m also on Mirtazipine which I know is an appetite stimulant and if I don’t eat when I feel hungry apart from getting the hunger pains I also get more pains from my hiatus hernia.  I’ve started taking 2 lansoprazole each day instead of one which after day 3 seem to be helping( this is what doc suggested last time )   I have doc appointment on Tuesday next week.  I wonder if the Mirtazipine is making things worse, but if I change ads I’m not sure which to change to as I need one that helps me sleep. I don’t get any other side effects from them maybe if I reduce the dose slightly if that may help.

Any opinions welcome.

[Kathleen]

Hello ladies.

Ayesha - I  don't have any experience of gastritis ( so far anyway 🤞) but I would also guess that the oil on the potatoes would be the problem. I always thought that potatoes were easy to digest and that is why we mash them up and give them to babies.

I do know from my science sites that potatoes contain lots of starchy carbohydrates which are supposed to be good for us. Also, if you wanted to give your microbiome a boost you could eat them cooked then cooled because the starch then makes it to your intestines where your gut bugs will enjoy it.

All my nutrition sites advocate eating lots of fruit and veg etc but clearly that is not always helpful advice for gastritis sufferers.

I hope you and all the ladies find a solution soon, as a previous UC sufferer I know how miserable digestive issues can be.

Wishing you well and take care.

K.

[Ayesha]

Thanks, Kathleen for your input and yes I also read how good potatoes are for the gut.
You are absolutely right, the very thin layer of oil on my roast potatoes was causing the gnawing pain and burning from damage caused by the colonoscopy prep. 
It's taken over two months for my stomach to heal and this week I have been able to eat roast potato's without any problems, I assume being old it takes longer to recover.

Smokey, sorry to hear you are suffering too and your symptoms being more complex. Keep taking the Lansoprazole, also take Gaviscon before meals which is what my doctor prescribed for me. Probiotics, as I have found out, are essential too for gut health and I am now a firm believer in how beneficial they are.
Hope you feel better soon!