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[Nas]

Am I right in thinking that the progesterone in the Mirena coil is released into the uterus only and not the rest of the body?

I’m asking as feel rather PMTish, jittery, crampy and grumpy.
Also have spotting, but that apparently is usual until the Mirena settles.

I had the Mirena fitted nearly 3 weeks ago and don’t know now if these symptoms are due to the coil or Oestrogen not being right again.

I seem to recall that symptoms, were bubbling before the coil, but can’t remember now!

The journey is relentless!

[LSmarty]

Hi Nas

Bare with it, it's still early days for you

Les xox

[Nas]

Thanks smarty,
I’m just worried I’ve caused more issues now, by having the coil.
My Oestrogen wasn’t right beforehand and now I just don’t know what’s causing what!

Is it safe to come off Oestrogen with a coil, to see how I feel? Then I can start again. X

[LSmarty]

Hi Nas

I'm not 💯 sure but a friend of mine has the coil only, no other hrt, so I'm guessing you could, hopefully someone else will come along and help you

Les xox

[Perinowpost]

I think you will feel worse if you come off oestrogen as the oestrogen will be negating the side effects of the progesterone (to some extent at least). What about upping your oestrogen? My friend had to go up from a 50 to 75 patch to balance the mirena.

Hope this helps x

[Nas]

Thanks Perinowpost
Yes I’ve been on the 75 patch for a good while now, but don’t feel very balanced at the moment. Either I’ve stopped absorbing or the coil is creating symptoms of its own ( or both!)

X

[ElkWarning]

Far as I'm aware, you don't need the oestrogen to offset the progesterone, because I've had the mirena peri and post meno with oestrogen (hrt) only for 9 months out of something like 5 years.

It's difficult to disentangle all the symptoms. I felt better with the mirena because it stopped catastrophic bleeding. There is a bit where it (the coil) goes silent, because it's doing its job, at which point I stopped thinking of it as a foreign body having an unknown effect (I could see the effect, no more bleeding, I didn't hugely care about anything else).

I became significantly worse on oestrogen, but again, difficult to disentangle symptoms because there was so much other stuff going on in my life (crazy stressful job, youngest had just left home, etc). I felt as if I was on a roller coaster that I couldn't get off ...

But yes, your symptoms were bubbling before the coil, I remember. Has it got the bleeding under control? How is the bladder?

[Perinowpost]

If you’re on 75 Nas you could try upping to 100. The good thing about the mirena is your uterus is protected if you want to try that.

Personally I didn’t like the mirena (documented on here). My symptoms which were similar to yours started within 2 weeks of having a inserted and resolved within 48 hours of having it removed. I had no issue untangling symptoms, I do wonderfully well on oestrogen only but need progesterone as I still have my womb.

I tried with the mirena for 6 months (which is a long time when you’re not feeling well), but it never got any better. That said I wouldn’t give up yet they work really well for some (lucky) people xx

[Nas]

Thanks for your thoughts.

Elk, yes symptoms I think were bubbling prior to 3 weeks ago. The feeling is a mix of PMT and brain in fuzzy ball. Very sensitive to sound and loud noises and very jittery/ anxious irritable.

 Maybe it’s the coil and low oestrogen?

The bladder is on the cusp.. not awful but probably not far off.

Currently very lightly spotting as present, but no real bleed to speak of.

So all in all, I don’t know. Suppose I up the oestrogen as you have suggested Perinowpost and see what happens? I have just read why you didn’t get on with the coil.

Did the low mood begin immediately for you? What do you take for progesterone now then?

Xx

[Perinowpost]

Classic prog intolerance symptoms. Flat mood started within first 2 weeks. I have to qualify that by saying I have tried every progesterone going (including private prog half dose) and struggled with it all. I currently use utrogestan 7 days vaginally (it’s  the only regime I can tolerate), with annual scans to make sure it’s working which it is. I have a couple of days of terrible prog withdrawal with it though, but it’s all I can manage. Sorry I have no better  solution x

[Nas]

Ah I see. I was great with utrogestan orally, but it didn’t control the bleeding.

I’m glad you have ve found a regime which works now, that is a relief.

Not sure what to do now then.
Maybe increase oestrogen to see how I feel.

X

[Nas]

Plus I was fine on Tuesday and Wednesday, felt great.

Since Thursday I’ve gone down hill again.

Maybe it is the mirena.

[Nas]

Just read on the Newson factsheet, that some women do react to the mirena progesterone and it can feel like PMS.

 Settling down period is 3/6 months!! That’s a long time!

It’s coming out!

[Marchlove]

Nas, PMS so horrid!
But you’ve come this far, if the physical symptoms have subsided, might you just be able to live with this awhile longer?
You’ll never know unless you try and you don’t want to ever look back on this and say to yourself I wish I’d given myself longer. X

[Nas]

Yes March, PMS is horrendous.
Who knows what to do any longer.
It’s just relentless.

Is it the coil ?
Is it low Oestrogen ?
Is it both?

 My brain is caput! 

On and have developed some strange pigmentation changes  on my face, like dark patches . Just read up on it and it says that this could be caused by hormonal changes