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[ATB]

Oh that cheered me up reading that laszla, thank you!

[joziel]

Yes thank you. I am so incensed after that Guardian article. Does the BMS et al not realise that all they will do, is lose the faith and trust of women??

I already don't trust them now for the latest advice and research, I read the research myself and wouldn't take their conclusions. They need to turn their creaking ship around and get with the times.

[ATB]

Agree Poppytoast, it’s so deeply offensive the way they’re discussing us, and they wonder why women avoid the GP. I’m actually so mad today I’m going to write a scathing letter to my old GP surgery to tell them exactly what I think about how they treated me. I think women are too nice overall about it and it’s time to voice our anger about the way we are treated in health care. It’s enough now. Has anyone read, Invisible Woman by Caroline Criado Perez?

[Marchlove]

Just looked at the reviews on Amazon for the book ATB, will be buying it.

Perhaps we could all write letters to the BMS telling them what we think!

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[ATB]

Yeah I’m thinking the BMS deserves to be flooded with letters. Every member here should write. I’m sick of this disgraceful lack of respect for women.

[Sheri]

Its ok for some people to say its a natural process & to not medicalise it, but when your suffering with menopause symptoms, you want all the help that you can get.
Arthritis could be seen as a natural disease because it mostly is caused by wear & tear, but we still treat it? So how is menopause any different?
My lady GP when i told her i think i have hormone problems, as i didn't think it was perimenopausal, barely looked up from her computer screen & said I'll give you AD. And i was like, no i don't want them. And i specifically asked to see the GP who deals with this problem.
I left my GP even more confused & desperate.
If it was a man's problem, I'm sure it would be taken more seriously. Controversial i know but its how i feel.

[Katy60]

https://thebms.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Looking-at-HRT-in-perspective-Helping-women-make-informed-choices.pdf

In the same BMJ edition, good comment...... link above from BMS....... which balances the rather ridiculous article "Normalising Menopause"  by M.Hickey(BMJ article)

I am a lay person, business women who has been following the BMS and Menopause matters for 20 yrs....... use HRT!
The BMS have done a huge amount to promote better treatment for menopause over the years much of their work must be unpaid.

[laszla]

A further three replies have been posted to article and it's interesting that 6 out of 7 are adamantly opposing this infuriatingly regressive piffle. I'm curious to see how many more responses there will be and which way they'll lean. 
ATB - I suspect rather than being too nice about it we've been brainwashed into 'ladylike' submission !
Thanks for the link Katy, will check it out.

Sheri, your being fobbed off with unwanted AD when wanting to get hormone support is all too common - and isn't it interesting how the ubiquitous and often inappropriate prescription of antidepressants to middle aged women isn't commented on when criticising the 'medicalisation' of menopause - as if antidepressants weren't massively more 'unnatural' than body identical HRT which most in this country are on (with all respect for those that genuinely benefit from ADs if and when the hormonal route has been explored).

I try to be hopeful that this drivel will strengthen the collective resolve to make progress.

[CLKD]

'piffle' that's a good Norfolk word  .  My Dad would say it with force  when he really wanted to swear 

[laszla]

CLKD - it's a word I've always liked when needing to express indignation - particularly in reference to the unfounded and biased utterances of 'experts' which is very much the case here!

[joziel]

"Has anyone read, Invisible Woman by Caroline Criado Perez?"

Got it in front of me on my desk and have read it 

[Starfish]

I couldn’t agree more with the post by Joziel. This very discussion is taken up by Dr Jen Gunter in the menopause manifesto. I would highly recommended this book. I listened to the audio book version.

I have been going through peri menopause since my late 30s. I suffered infertility as a result. I was told at age 34 by fertility drs that I had a very low egg count and I would have an early menopause. My gp did not seem concerned. Then in my early 40s my periods stopped for 4-6 months at a time. At age 43, this year, after demanding that I needed something due to horrendous symptoms I was given treatment. My fsh was 103. I’m currently trying to find something that works for me. Nothing yet.

[joziel]

Let us not forget that it is extremely 'natural' for men to get flaccid willies and no erections as they age...

Yet they can buy Viagra over the counter.

Just so they can have sex.

Call me cynical, but is this also the reason that women can only have testosterone for low libido? So that they still want to have sex with these men who are getting their Viagra over the counter?

Patriarchy, alive and well in 2022.

[ATB]

Ha! Yes Joziel!