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[ATB]

Clearly Penny had someone report her to get a warning CLKD. Penny has merely shared her opinion. How sad that someone here decided she isn’t entitled to one that differs from their own.

Rates of admissions are slowing. Everyone has had to worry about this for too long. I don’t think any visiting restrictions will come back.

[Aprilflower]

Masking in a heatwave is a very bad idea anyway.

[ATB]

It feels hotter to me this morning. Cool outside in the shade but my bedroom is an oven! I don’t know what I’d do without this little fan. I’m not going anywhere so no need for a mask anyway!

[Pennyfarthing]

It feels hotter to me this morning. Cool outside in the shade but my bedroom is an oven! I don’t know what I’d do without this little fan. I’m not going anywhere so no need for a mask anyway!

Know what you mean! we slept with the fan running all night.  i have a water fan which I bought on a hippy market in Ibiza about 10 years ago. it has a container for cold water and a fan on top and is battery operated. It is brilliant.

Just off for a blood test because apparently they “mislabelled the vial” on my test last Wed.  I will have to wear a mask at the surgery because they reintroduced them last week but I will only be in there a few mins and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste anyway.

[CLKD]

ATB - who told PF that someone had raised issues, as PMs are private between members and cannot be read by others 

If masks don't work as a form of protection, why have medical staff worn them in theatres etc.?  Also, Barrier Nursing seems to have gone to the wall, all this talk of PPE - why weren't Hospitals well stocked anyway?  It is to protect others , not necessarily the wearer. 

[ATB]

If she posted here about it, it’s because the single moderator messaged her. Of course she’s not reading other peoples PMs. But the mod doesn’t read all the threads. You are contacted when there’s a complaint. I’m not sure why you’re contacting Emma about Penny’s warning?

The point is…. Can we all just accept and welcome different opinions? Nobody, especially Penny, was rude to anyone. It seems a bit mean to report Penny for sharing an opinion. We should all be allowed to share our opinions, nobody should be afraid to post theirs.

[ATB]

Masks in theatre are quite different! That’s a clinical setting.
The reason there wasn’t enough PPE… complex but, we would all moan if they spent millions or even billions on huge amounts of PPE, which must be thrown out after a certain time, just in case. That’s really the problem. If they stockpile in the numbers needed for a pandemic at all times, we simply couldn’t afford to do so… but if they don’t, when we need it, it’s a big problem. These decisions are so difficult. I’m glad I don’t have to make them.

[CLKD]

A moderator should not ever tell members who has issued a concern.  It's in the name : Private Messenger : there are tactful ways of 'discussing'.

I'm staying put this morning.  Masks are in the wash, my excuse for not going anywhere ;-)

The governments of the day knew that a Pandemic was in the offing, discussions took place as early as 2014.  PPE can be kept for years, in the event of a pandemic what's a few days out of date!  How can PPE 'go off'.  Certainly my sister, a Nurse, knew that any that was available was used - and they didn't have time to check 'use before dates'.  During the pandemic we were in a 'clinical situation' ........

[ATB]

Yeah of course in hospital it’s a clinical setting for those working there, with the right masks.

CLKD, Penny didn’t say she knew who. But it was from this thread. Not sure why you’re so incensed by it? If you complain about someone to the moderator, you have to know they’ll possibly be warned or messaged and they’ll know someone did it. It seems someone is quite busy reporting lately and it’s making others afraid to share their opinion. Wouldn’t it be nicer if none of us did that and we just allowed other opinions on masks or whatever it is? Penny wasn’t unkind to anyone and it isn’t nice to get a message implying you were.

[jaypo]

Thing with masks is,some folks wear them and probably always will but others,like myself don't wear them, I don't care if you DO wear one but I don't,yes I am just now but that's only til I pass a Covid test on Saturday,it's certainly not a topic we all need to fall out over,surely? X

[ATB]

Completely agree Jaypo. I don’t wear one because I can’t and I resent mandates but I don’t care if others choose to. No need to for anyone to fall out on a forum at all IMO. Even if I get offended at the ableism about autism I see on here I don’t report it. I just have to suck it up.

[Taz2]

Where are you off to jaypo? 

[jaypo]

 Cruise to Norway Taz,us Scots like the cold 

ATB of course we ARE all Meno 

[Taz2]

A few friends have been on those cruises. Sounds just my sort of cruise being a Winter Person but isn't it around 25 degrees in the summer?  Have a great time and enjoy those long hours of daylight. Here's to a negative test!

Taz x

[jaypo]

Thanks Taz,you should try and go sometime,I can't even describe how stunning it is x