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[loonarider]

Hi,

I hoped this was the holy grail, the IUD. But last night amongst many nights since I had this coil put in 2 months ago was terrifying. It was like I was possessed. I wanted to escape, as in leave the world. I seriously nearly got out of bed to try and end it, but then luckily I fell asleep.

I have a succession of nights of horrible adrenaline rushes which had stopped before the mirena was put in, but It has come back with worse symptoms incl. the suicidal thoughts.

I am upset because I'm not doing too well with progesterone pills either which is why I tried the mirena.

Before I had it put in, I took a  risk using the Lenzetto estrogen spray, 1 dose/spray a day on it's own and I felt amazing, and it just seems that this coil has thrown a spanner in the works and I'm back to square 1.

So confused, sad, depressed and not sure what to do now. I cannot stick this out for. 4 more months considering the suicidal thoughts induced by it. I cannot.

Not to mention weiggt gain around my stomach and I've never had a big stomach .
It's all terrifying and it's really doing a number on my mental health. It just needs to come out.

Doctors seem clueless and keep telling me that the progesterone released is minimal so I shouldn't experience what I'm experiencing. But I KNOW for a fact that this is the coil. It is unmistakable since all these symptoms begun as soon as I had it inserted.

At the same time it was useful as a contraceptive, that is the only plus - however, my mental health is more important.

I can't afford a menopause specialist, so I'm on here hoping someone who's well-versed in this stuff can advise me.

I just want to love life again

[PeriWhat?!]

I don't have answers loonarider, but please call your GP urgently, this needs sorting.
In the short term, if suicidal thoughts come back, please pick up the phone and talk to someone. When I was at rock bottom, people on here suggested The Samaritans, or even presenting myself at A&E as options when things were really bad:
https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/talk-us-phone/
Take care.

[Flossieteacake]

I am so very sorry the mirena coil has caused you to feel this way. You are not imaging it and the GP is wrong. I became suicidal on progesterone and I am still waiting to find one I can tolerate. You need to get this removed urgently and I would insist on this as your mental well being is at risk. You are entitled to see a NHS menopause specialist and your GP can refer you to one. Please do not worry about the weight gain right now. It really is not important. What is important is you feel safe.

[CLKD]

Hormones can cause all kinds of mental upsets.  Hence Pre-menstrual Syndrome being investigated by Dr Kathleen Dalton in the 1980s/90s. 

I would get the Mirena removed then give your body a rest from HRT.  Ask for the referral to a Menopause Clinic - not a Gynaecologist!

No one needs to feel this ill.  It is so tiring trying to find a regime that eases symptoms 

Let us know how you get on.

[Postmeno3]

Spot on, Periwhat! I salute your courage coming on here with this, Loonarider. You WILL love life again. Huge hug! 🫂

[loonarider]

I don't have answers loonarider, but please call your GP urgently, this needs sorting.
In the short term, if suicidal thoughts come back, please pick up the phone and talk to someone. When I was at rock bottom, people on here suggested The Samaritans, or even presenting myself at A&E as options when things were really bad:
https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/talk-us-phone/
Take care.

Thank you PeriWhat for the quick response and very helpful advice I will definitely call the Samaritans if it happens again xxx

[loonarider]

I am so very sorry the mirena coil has caused you to feel this way. You are not imaging it and the GP is wrong. I became suicidal on progesterone and I am still waiting to find one I can tolerate. You need to get this removed urgently and I would insist on this as your mental well being is at risk. You are entitled to see a NHS menopause specialist and your GP can refer you to one. Please do not worry about the weight gain right now. It really is not important. What is important is you feel safe.

I will defnitely look into asking for a referral to a menopause specialist. Actually I've just come back from the GP. I spoke to one of my fav doctors there who had been away for while. Was glad to see her back. She said she could take out the coil right there and then, but she did add that maybe it needs time to settle and prescribed me diazepam (valium?) at a very small dose of 2 mg, but she said can halve it to stop the adrenaline rushes and anxiety at night and see how I feel.

She also booked me in to remove the coil next week if I'm still not happy.

[loonarider]

Hormones can cause all kinds of mental upsets.  Hence Pre-menstrual Syndrome being investigated by Dr Kathleen Dalton in the 1980s/90s. 

I would get the Mirena removed then give your body a rest from HRT.  Ask for the referral to a Menopause Clinic - not a Gynaecologist!

No one needs to feel this ill.  It is so tiring trying to find a regime that eases symptoms 

Let us know how you get on.

Thank you for your support CKLD, and I think you're right to let my body rest from HRT. I've just come back from seeing one of my fav doctors who had been on holiday. She said she's happy to take the coil out today, but she also gave me the option of maybe waiting a week and to try diazepam at a very low dose (2 mg daily for a wk) until then and see how I feel. She even said to halve it if worried about taking too much. So, while feeling super scared, I'm going to try the diazepam until next week and then take out the coil if things haven't improved.

I know you have taken diazepam in the past or are still taking it. What are your thoughts on this? Do you take it as and when you feel anxious or?I'm not sure when to take it, but all my symptoms are at night and tend to wake me up from sleep x

[Flossieteacake]

I am so pleased you are okay and you saw a nice GP. I hope the diazepam helps to relax you. I was told to take diazepam when I felt I needed it. If you are very anxious then I would not wait.

[loonarider]

Spot on, Periwhat! I salute your courage coming on here with this, Loonarider. You WILL love life again. Huge hug! 🫂

I really hope so! x

[loonarider]

I am so pleased you are okay and you saw a nice GP. I hope the diazepam helps to relax you. I was told to take diazepam when I felt I needed it. If you are very anxious then I would not wait.

Hey thanks for the advice.

What dose were you on and did you get an bad side effectss? I know drowsiness is a thing...

[Flossieteacake]

I really cannot remember. It just made me feel tired. If I took it then I would have to lie down as I was too tired to do anything.

[loonarider]

I really cannot remember. It just made me feel tired. If I took it then I would have to lie down as I was too tired to do anything.

Thank you! 

[CLKD]

Valium under supervision does what it says on the tin.  As well as being used for people in severe pain due to spinal problems and as a pre-med., it is a very useful relaxant.

Initially in the 1990s I was taking 5mg 3 times a day for 3 days: dropped down to 5mg once a day. Then I saw my GP who recommended alternate days, taken at night as anxiety is worse first thing.

Short term use gives the sufferer a break from the awful symptoms.  As I got well - and I thought that I would never be free of anxiety - I used 5 mg as necessary the night B4 events that I couldn't get out of.  It would annoy MinL because mid-afternoon I would drop off to sleep  but I would think "Your son is here, without my medication we wouldn't be, so enjoy his company"  . - Knowing that I could take another tablet but never required it.

Then I had 1mg as necessary and my GP has given me another emergency drug - beginning with an L but can't remember.  During lockdown I was anxiety free because Boris said don't go anywhere so I didn't. 

........ and breath.  Try to rest.  Try to practice relaxation: tensing the toes, hold, relax: all the way up through the muscles groups.  Focusses the mind.

[loonarider]

Valium under supervision does what it says on the tin.  As well as being used for people in severe pain due to spinal problems and as a pre-med., it is a very useful relaxant.

Initially in the 1990s I was taking 5mg 3 times a day for 3 days: dropped down to 5mg once a day. Then I saw my GP who recommended alternate days, taken at night as anxiety is worse first thing.

Short term use gives the sufferer a break from the awful symptoms.  As I got well - and I thought that I would never be free of anxiety - I used 5 mg as necessary the night B4 events that I couldn't get out of.  It would annoy MinL because mid-afternoon I would drop off to sleep  but I would think "Your son is here, without my medication we wouldn't be, so enjoy his company"  . - Knowing that I could take another tablet but never required it.

Then I had 1mg as necessary and my GP has given me another emergency drug - beginning with an L but can't remember.  During lockdown I was anxiety free because Boris said don't go anywhere so I didn't. 

........ and breath.  Try to rest.  Try to practice relaxation: tensing the toes, hold, relax: all the way up through the muscles groups.  Focusses the mind.

Thanks CKLD,
Would you say it acts fast or should I maybe start taking it in the evening so I'm relaxed by the time the symptoms start show up in the early hours/middle of the night?