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[CLKD]

I have been looking at instant water heaters for cloakrooms and think a couple of companies may sell something suitable.  Our hot water goes via the local town and round our garden B4 it reaches our down stairs cloakroom  by which time it's time for another pee!  It is so not green to waste all that cold water to get a hand wash - a few years ago I considered one but time and Life took over.

Now - as part of my green commitment I think I must push for a heater in the New Year 

[sheila99]

Greener still to wash your hands in cold water. Hot is for wimps 

[CLKD]

I'm a wimp with heart though  .  I suppose you have to ride a cycle to power your generator to heat your water ...........  as well as being used to dipping your hands in either cold water tanks or up the rear end of a ewe .......... surely you don't wash down in cold water 

[sheila99]

We warm our hands over the candle after washing in cold water...
I hate to admit it but we rarely have hot water in summer and I don't miss it, it takes so long to get to the taps I've finished before it gets there. An electric shower and a kettle is all you need   

[CLKD]

As another meander: this government wants us all to be electrically sourced by a certain date: however - tell that to those still without power after 6 days  . OK having those ugly turbines out at sea but if they generate the electricity to pump it into various houses, factories etc. but the pumps fail .......... as well as no gas installed in new builds from next year 

I hadn't thought about the change of pipework, our house was built in 1968.

[sheila99]

Perhaps more electricity cables could go underground. They manage to bury gas pipes so why not electricity? Apart from the cost.

[Limpy]

Perhaps more electricity cables could go underground. They manage to bury gas pipes so why not electricity? Apart from the cost.

I think getting wayleaves  may be a bit tricky.
We had a BT line which went along a hedge around the side of a field. BT wanted to put it underground - the land owner got snotty. Took a while (6 months or so) before agreement was reached.
I'd imagine the same problem could apply to electricity cables.

[CLKD]

If the government can make compulsory purchase orders on properties and land for HS2  , they can: if they want us to go electric : do the same for cabling. 

Dad had a house built in 1967.  There was an electric pole appeared one afternoon in the middle of the front lawn  without warning.  So he had it removed after a lot of arguments.  He wasn't persuaded by the money offered annually to 'host' the pole  .  He stood by with an electric saw thingy as they arrived to move it, about 5 feet into the path right against the boundary of the garden  .  It's there to this day and after a storm, the blackbird sings from the top 

[sheila99]

They have it sorted for gas, you don't see any gas pipes hanging from poles. For electricity, and presumably for gas too, if they can't come to an agreement with the landowner they can take them to court. You can't have a situation where a house is denied electricity because a landowner gets snotty. I don't know if they can force cables underground, I assume they can if overground is unsafe. We were happy to agree, once they're buried they're out of the way and you don'thhave the usual problem of them driving 6 vehicles across your land in winter when it will make as much mess as possible.