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[Me]

Hello all - I wondered if anyone else has experienced serious moments of rage since starting Oestrogel?

I was prescribed HRT, Utrogestan and Oestrogel a few months ago for migraines.  I was doubtful as they've never been linked to my cycle and I wasn't having any peri symptoms apart from perhaps a very low mood which could also be because my life is shit.  I gave it a go for a month and the only thing I noticed was a low level headache and 2 or 3 moments of pure rage, aimed at my children.

In desperation I started the gel again 12 days ago, determined to give it a bit longer and am due to add the Utrogestan day after tomorrow.  However, I've noticed that again I have moments of sheer explosive anger.  This morning has been hideous.  I have already had a go at my husband (deserved) and my 16 yr old, also deserved, but I shouted so much and so loud that he stomped of upstairs and has refused to go to school.

I had a day planned of productivity and organisation.  Now I am sitting here, still in my dressing gown, crying and feeling worse than I have felt in my life.  Is this normal, will it go away?

[CLKD]

If U think it's hormonally linked, stop.  No treatment is worth rages.  How were you during your menstrual cycle?

As for DS, let him rest 4 today.  Pop up with a bowl of flakes and say 'sorry'.  Say 'sorry' to your DH too.  Then print off and hand 'hints for husbands' for them both.

If you think that low mood isn't connected to your hormones, ask for an appropriate medication? 

[Me]

Hi - I have never had any kind of PMS or PMT.

I'm so disappointed.  I'm at the end of my tether with migraines and just wanted this to work.

[CLKD]

Of course.  It is so frustrating and takes up a lot of head space! 

MayB put 'migraines' into the search box on the Forum 2 C what pops up?

[Me]

absolutely nothing!  Apart from this thread. 

[CLKD]

I found a few threads, some go back to 2005.  i.e. migraine and headaches.  I have bumped 1 thread 4 U.

You could put the product names into the search box separately 2 C if those show any current threads.  Hopefully someone will be along.

[Dotty]

Hi how much Oestrogel are you using ? x

[Me]

Hi
I started with 1 pump then after a couple of days 2: 1 in the AM and  1 in the PM at bedtime.
Now I have reduced it to half a pump in the AM.
It may be a coincidence but I feel that it's making me feel very dizzy too.


I'm beginning to think that I just can't tolerate it.  I know that the oestrogen in the combined contraception pill is different but I  remember that giving me banging headaches and a vile temper so was never able to take it.  I did point this out to the migraine specialist who just said it didn't mean that I would have issues now at the age of 50.

I wonder if I have always had some sort of imbalance.  for example, I never had any typical teenage symptoms like spots or difficult periods etc.  Most of my friends started their periods before me and they always had 'issues', headaches, bloating, bad mood etc.  I started my periods at 14 and never had any of that.  Then when I was 29 I suddenly got serious cystic acne and although I had migraines before they were one offs, but that was when my migraines became more of a feature in my life.

feel like total sh** today.  Wondering what the point is.

[Floo36]

I’m guessing that you are peri menopausal? When I look back to before I knew I was peri menopausal and before the severe symptoms I was very irritable and short fused for a few years which I now know was my hormones changing.  Could it be that you need to give the gel a chance as it may actually be your own hormone decline and fluctuations doing it to you.  Just a thought as we are all different and it takes a lot of working out for some of us. 

[Me]

Hi

the only reason I'm taking it is the migraines.  I tried it once a while ago and had the rage issue which I have never had, I also had a very heavy period so I stopped.  However, even though I don't have hot flushes or any other typical symptoms I have had a very, very low mood and combined with the NHS arsing me around with my referral to a migraine specialist I decide to give the HRT another go in the mean time.  also, I have been getting occasional very heavy periods for years now so I can't really blame the HRT.  when I say heavy, I mean I can't leave the house.  My periods are getting further apart so I am aware there are changes due to my age but really, I can't tell you what a hot flush feels like, I sleep well enough, get plenty of exercise etc.  it's just my mood and my head.  the migraines have got worse and changed over the past 5 years so that was another reason for hrt as it was thought it could be because of the perimenopause.
To be fair, my life is really crap.  I don't work because of my migraines and have little life outside of my house.  Live in the middle of nowhere and apart from husband and children don't have any family.  I've also got undifferentiated inflammatory arthritis and currently can't use my right arm fully.  Having watched all the Dr Louise Newson videos and listening to Liz Earle banging on about how much of the Estrogel she smears on I was really sold on the idea that hrt might just solve all my health issue!  I actually feel worse, snappy, tired and now because of crying this morning I have a headache coming on and I have achieved nothing that I had planned and now I am still in the cycle of thinking about what to make for supper, even though I don't have any interest in food and am watching the clock ticking closer to kids coming home time.
Uuuggh.  Pointless, shitty existence.

[CLKD]

Give yourself a break!  Drink plenty of fluids 2day and rest when you can.  Housework etc. can wait!

Do U know which Specialist you would be referred to for the migraines?  If so ring the Dept and ask what the waiting list for appt.s might be, also are you able to self refer.

[CLKD]

Heavy periods can be eased with medication from the GP. 

[Me]

yes I did ring the clinic and they said my appointment would not be this year and she couldn't say when it would be.  In total I will have been waiting nearly 2 years in January.

[CLKD]

That isn't good enough!  Would you be able to take a cancellation appt. should someone not turn up?

[Me]

I would imagine that I'm not the only one waiting for a cancellation. The clinic is already outside of my own health board - so lucky to be referred at all.
'lucky'