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[pepperminty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Bm7EbZK1c

please see link above if interested

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[Nellie Noo]

Thank you !

[pepperminty]

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[Postmeno3]

Did I see some of the slides from 2012? Not sure. I got the impression that it was not recommended or understood for anything other than sex drive? Have I got that right? Thanks!

[Gnatty]

Yes seems to be saying that which is very different from the British narrative at the moment. Menopause clinics here are recommending it also for brain fog, energy, depression. However GPs I think just prescribe for libido.

[Perinowpost]

I’m sure I once listened to a podcast by the late prof Studd where he said it was beneficial for bone health also x

[pepperminty]

Hi Ladies,

T is only officially recommended for libido, but it is beneficial for the V, brain and muscle strength etc for  some women. Apparently there are no cancer risks from what I have read and Louise  newson uses it every other day in a small dose  to help with stamina and thinking.

Most health care professionals are still scared of prescribing through ignorance as they don't get taught about it and some do not even know that women produce loads of it when they are younger.

The other link i posted  on prescribing  shows to me that the professionals still aren't all on the same page as they call taking utro vaginally "off piste" and Nick Panay did not pipe up when someone said you cannot prescribe Dygesterone in the UK when his clinic actually dose prescribe it !

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[Gnatty]

Hi Peppermint, just wondering re dose of testosterone you said Louise Newson took - do you know why she only takes it every other day? My understanding, particularly with Androfemme was that it was a daily dose.

[pepperminty]

HI Gnatty,

she said that she only requires a bit to do what she wanted it to do which was think clearly and have more energy. So she has a blob every other day.

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[Gnatty]

Thank you, it's a minefield knowing how much to take of everything!

[VictoryV]

Thank you, it's a minefield knowing how much to take of everything!

Totally agree! Not knowing how the body will respond to tweaks is frustrating and an anxiety trigger.

Thanks for posting the link Pepperminty and the previous one.
Victoria x

[Loo53]

My NHS Trust where I work is currently doing a drive on menopause and the employer etc apparently testosterone is prescribed for women with HSDD but it’s also good for bone health and muscle maintenance, sarcopenia etc. I read some of the literature today and have decided to resume taking it along with my vaginal estrogen which was the way it was originally prescribed, for a trial of 3 months to see if there is any efficacy from it for me.

In the past I have faced bias and ignorance by the medical profession being on testosterone due to their lack of understanding. I had an Occupational health doc suggest I was experiencing ‘Roid rage when I revealed I was on testosterone for menopause and for standing up to  a woman who was bullying me in my job. Another time my cardiologist asked what the hell are you on that for?

[pepperminty]

Hi Loo53,

yes,  HSDD the loss of sexual desire which is common in menopause as testosterone reduces. Most doctors ( including Louise Newson in the early days!) did not know that women produce significant amounts of testosterone. We loose significant amounts at menopause and all we are doing is replacing them.

I suspect that if this were a man's issue that methods of testing and tailoring each and replacing each  "loss" would have been sorted by now. It makes sense that not so long ago women gave up work at 50 and the stereo type fridgid  old housewife etc.  No one talked about it years ago, we put up and shut up and women were often placed in mental asylums due to menopause related symptoms.

  We are not biologically designed to last much past 50 / menopause . We are all living longer , men and women and able to do so due to medical intervention and disease control.  Very few women had access to hormones and those that did kept it quite.  We have the technology to do DNA type  testing to look at what everyone requires ( and it will be different for each woman) , but no company  has invested in it and pushed it through.
Funny how Viagra was pushed for men.

The most important thing is we all build each other up and support each other in this difficult journey . And I hope that the medical profession instead of intervening at crisis point , invests in preventative measures for women and menopause  such as early vaginal estrogen , before we get to VA for example and DNA tailored HRT . Nick Panay seems to thinks it will happen eventually.  And boy would it save a lot of money for the NHS in the long run.

Even if some women appear to "escape " or sale through menopause- there is a risk of bone health and heart health as you say.  And dementia has gone up in women since use of HRT has gone down - coincidence ? Our brains physically change after menopause. Hormones do not cure everything but can make a significant contribution for some in improving quality of life.

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