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[littleminnie]

I know 4 people that have it and they don’t know each other 

[CLKD]

..........  ........... I know people who have been very ill who have had both been vaccinated. It is what it is.  Wear masks.  Wash hands. Keep away from others.

Apparently Boris ins't going to isolate even though one of his work Team has tested +ive - but those returning from Mexico have to go into quarantine ..........

[Taz2]

I know 4 people that have it and they don’t know each other 

Lots around and I'm waiting to catch it as that seems inevitable if I want to lead a fairly normal life.  :-\What ages are they and have they had the vaccine and how are they?

Taz x

[CLKD]

How did they catch it littleminnie: out and about in crowds; did they wear masks etc.?  Our neighbour and his daughter had it months ago, poorly for a few weeks then back to their routines.  "worse than 'flu" .

[Taz2]

Masks don't prevent you catching it but do have some effect on you not passing it on if you've got it.

Were your neighbour and daughter fully vaccinated? I'm trying to work out who's catching it and feeling really ill.

Taz x

[jillydoll]

Yes, it does seem inevitable doesn’t it, if we’re trying to get our lives back to some normality. No stopping it I’m afraid.
I’m dreading catching it, if I ever do of course, but since I’ve been jabbed twice, I’m hopeful.
Scares us all I think.

[littleminnie]

Two have had 1 vaccine.  Ages - 20’s and 40’s.  One caught it at family get together
One has had 2 vaccines Age 60’s.  Caught at a wedding.
Not sure about the 4th but in her 30’s

The one in their 20’s has every symptom plus vomiting and diarrhoea

[Ju Ju]

My friend and husband have a son still living at home at 26 due to mental illness. They have both been fully vaccinated and both have medical conditions that make them vulnerable. However, the son refuses to be vaccinated. They asked their other son to try and persuade him to be vaccinated, but he continues to refuse. On the face of it, I would say I love you, but you have to move out under these circumstances, but it is highly unlikely they will do this. And no, he doesn’t have a needle phobia. He says it’s his right to say no. What would you do?

[CLKD]

Young men went to War: twice : to give us the right to decide. 

MayB these people who won't get jabbed should talk to those now in Hospital, who also said 'no'.  I read about a man aged 42 who was under the impression that the body heals itself: he's now on his way to the crematorium.  Although fit, a triathlete, C-19 got him. 

In their case extreme hygiene needs to be carried out: everyone have their own towels, flannels etc. - would the son be more amiable rather than being 'told'.  If possible, he has his own bathroom and the parents if there's an en-suite?  The likelihood of them catching the Virus is how likely Ju Ju? Does the son go out and about?

My friend refuses to have the jab being of 'the body heals itself' attitude.  I would be keener on over all vaccination if the Germ targeted could be irradiated i.e. smallpox.

[Taz2]

I have three friends who have refused vaccination. Two in their early thirties and one in his seventies. The younger ones are worried about future fertility and can find no reassurance that it won't be affected. The older one because he has never had vaccinations for anything apparently. My disabled daughter in law's carers have also refused and are all willing to leave their jobs when it becomes mandatory for them to receive the vaccine. 

Taz x

[Ju Ju]

Clkd, no en-suite and standards in hygiene rather less than usual to be polite. The son does not go out much, but while that limits the opportunity to catch Covid, it takes only one opportunity to catch it.

You cannot predict how someone will react to this virus. People who seem to be vulnerable survive , while those who you would have thought would be fine, die.

[daska86]

We've been out for a meal with vaccinated friends, to a restaurant we've been to before, and it was busier than. We've ever seen it and there seemed to be more tables in there. We're not doing it again until it feels safer. Back to staying in.  seeing friends at a distance and taking all the precautions. Can't see a return to normality yet. Still too many people catching it.

[ElkWarning]

My friend and husband have a son still living at home at 26 due to mental illness. They have both been fully vaccinated and both have medical conditions that make them vulnerable. However, the son refuses to be vaccinated. They asked their other son to try and persuade him to be vaccinated, but he continues to refuse. On the face of it, I would say I love you, but you have to move out under these circumstances, but it is highly unlikely they will do this. And no, he doesn’t have a needle phobia. He says it’s his right to say no. What would you do?

Accept it. His body, his choice. I mean if they're shielding and can guarantee this is the only unvaccinated person they're coming into contact with, then maybe something different, but I somehow doubt this is the case. Also, obviously, they always have the option to move. Presumably it's the family home, so here's got as much right to be in it as they have.

[littleminnie]

I know a 5th person now.   
When all this started and there were a lot more cases I didn’t know anyone that had it.

[CLKD]

What's your concern?