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[Michelle7474]

Michelle, what happens when you try to get on with stuff day to day. Do you feel anxious? Can you go out alone? Drive a car?

These were issues I  had badly last year and the driving issue still lingers to a lesser degree. I have found  facing the anxiety head on, helps. So with the driving, I blast rescue remedy, get a sweet ready and get behind wheel. Many a time, I have pulled over to breath and regain a sense of control,  but to me, it’s better for me to face the  demon, than let it control me!

Face the anxiety head on. Befriend it almost, accept its there but try to crack on without your jobs at the same time.

I would trial your anxiety meds. You may feel much better in month or so.

It’s awful and one of the worse symptoms in my view.

Nas x

Hi Nas
Thanks for replying
Some days are better than others , I just get up have breakfast start cleaning and doing bits and bobs n sometimes I can work through the aniexty as it’s not so bad kinda thing
Other days like yesterday & also Monday it over takes .. yesturday was non stop as much as I tried n tried it wouldn’t go away
Monday I was meant to go get blood tests and I made myself go .. I didn’t make it I couldn’t physically do it .. so I turned Bck
But later than afternoon I made my husband take me and again I was having an aniexty attack
I was always out going never indoors
Now I’m indoors and hardly ever go out
I did make myself go for a walk alone the other day … didn’t feel no better for it

When it comes on it starts with racing heart beat .. then BP spikes I feel shaky all over my arms legs just the whole of my body and feel like I’m gonna pass out
Then I usually sit and try and calm the thumping heart but it don’t stop so I panic I think that little more
Then eventually I calm down … but it lingers afterwards and it’s like I wait for the next one ( does that sound like aniexty ) my breathing to be fair I don’t gasp for air or anything I’m just overwhelmed with all other symptoms
I do try and breathe to relax myself but it don’t always work

I hate this so much & I try and try and try to not let it control me but if I’m honest it does control me.
When it starts and it’s not so intense I carry on doing whatever I’m doing but I’m constantly thinking about it

It’s awful as you know
And some days are far worse than others
Xxx

 

[Michelle7474]

Hi Michelle,
so sorry to hear you continue to struggle and the anxiety is there despite coming off HRT. Maybe you could consider HRT again, after a few weeks, as it may have just been wrong dose or delivery method?   

In the meanwhile, it sounds you do need something to break the anxiety circle. It is horrible and traumatising to suffer like that.
Its great you talk to your GP today -perhaps also ask him/her to give you something with works now, on top of a longer run solution.
Nowadays they don't want to prescribe benzodiazepines, but having an 'emergency tablet' to take when it gets too hard sounds like something you need at the moment -to be able to start your recovery.

Let us know how you get on and take good care of yourself! xxx

Hi EllaAurora
Thankyou for replying

I’m not sure about restarting HRT yet as I think maybe once I’ve had a bleed my hormones might settle ( I hope )
I wouldn’t ever rule out using again

My GP gave me proponol to take if and when needed and I took one yesterday for first time and it did calm me down
Probably calmest I’ve felt for a very long time but felt woozy and lightheaded and also felt nausea ( dry heaving is a problem for me at present ) which I think is also due to aniexty

Today I feel calm ( but it the back ground I feel jittery ) it’s something I can’t shake off and also the feeling that a period is coming so it’s like everything coming at once

I’m not sure if Antidepressants would work but I think now after so long I need to give something a try as it’s no life being like this and as many people have suffered we all know how it feels kinda thing HORRENDOUS!!

I hope for better days can only get better cant it ??

How you feeling now , as your regime worked
Thanks for replying
Xxx

[CLKD]

'traumatising' - that's a good description . 

I was advised to take 'propranolol' every night - I can't understand it as an 'as necessary' medication , good though that it helped your symptoms to calm.  What ever works 4 U! 

Not anti-depressants although some do ease anxiety surges, however - depression is an illness.  Anxiety is caused by different situations.  Fight/flight due to fear reflex.  Depression is chemical.  I have both clinical and organic depression, some 'experts' won't consider that depression is different; it's all put into the same box  .

Eating regularly is important 4 me too.  Otherwise I feel queasy = not eating which becomes a nasty cycle.

[Michelle7474]

'traumatising' - that's a good description . 

I was advised to take 'propranolol' every night - I can't understand it as an 'as necessary' medication , good though that it helped your symptoms to calm.  What ever works 4 U! 

Not anti-depressants although some do ease anxiety surges, however - depression is an illness.  Anxiety is caused by different situations.  Fight/flight due to fear reflex.  Depression is chemical.  I have both clinical and organic depression, some 'experts' won't consider that depression is different; it's all put into the same box  .

Eating regularly is important 4 me too.  Otherwise I feel queasy = not eating which becomes a nasty cycle.

Hi CLKD
I make my self eat as I lost appitite but I make sure I eat because sometimes feels worse when not eaten
This is what I think .. I kept saying I don’t need antidepressants as I’m not depressed .. yes I’m low because of this aniexty
But that’s all kinda thing
& I was like how can a AD help my aniexty
But GP said certain AD can .. who knows eh

Yeah the tab they said take it if and when required
I’ll speak to them about that when they phone actually
Someone I know who is on them said she takes when she feels it coming on and some days she don’t need it so maybe it’s a one off med also
Says on label can take up to 3 times a day when required

[Nas]

Hi Michelle,
Propranolol isn’t too bad I find for situational anxiety.
There’s also an 80mg slow release, maybe that would keep the anxiety at bay for longer?

Remember these are feelings, scary but not dangerous. Have you read The DARE book ? It’s quite good. Or download the app to listen to?

Perhaps when you are ready, trial another HRT type. There are many and it may just be that particular patch didn’t suit you?

Xxx

[Michelle7474]

Hi Michelle,
Propranolol isn’t too bad I find for situational anxiety.
There’s also an 80mg slow release, maybe that would keep the anxiety at bay for longer?

Remember these are feelings, scary but not dangerous. Have you read The DARE book ? It’s quite good. Or download the app to listen to?

Perhaps when you are ready, trial another HRT type. There are many and it may just be that particular patch didn’t suit you?

Xxx

Hi Nas
Thanks again for replying & helping when you do I appreciate it

I haven’t heard of Dare only today when someone mentioned it to me on here , but I will look it up though thankyou
Oh yes Nas I would never rule out HRT but I will try let my own hormones settle back in first ..

Today I’m ok so far , apart from this dry heaving doing my head in lol
Comes from no where .. I have had burning issue near my ribs for a while and they put me on Omperzole for it and usually eases the burning some what but recently been getting like a acid burnt feeling in throat & like flemmy feeling and now dry heaving so think that it’s all connected with this burning I wish it would do one ( doc said aniexty can make things worse )
I will also mention this to GP as I haven’t mentioned because I was always on about something else ( I’ve gone from no symptoms person to everything lol ) I shouldn’t laugh but it’s annoying so much.

Thanks for taking time out of your day to reply .. I appreciate it. xx

[CLKD]

What you are feeling are more likely 2B adrenaline surges.  We are not physically aware of blood pressure changes unless it drops suddenly when we may faint, or if it rises sharply and suddenly.  We have a home testing BP kit - I don't register at all  .  DH takes his at the same time each morning, usually B4 eating, he charts his figures for his GP every 6 months. 

4 me adrenaline felt like hot water coursing through my veins, scary until I become used to it.  I potter in the mornings if I feel vulnerable.  I don't go anywhere until about 11.00 as by then I am usually feeling better.  On a good day I can go out and about without thinking too far ahead unless the physicality sets in 

Deep breathing can help.  As can blowing into a brown paper bag.  Apparently.

Dry heaving is anxiety.  The other seems to be acid reflux symptoms, I find 'Rennies' help.

[Michelle7474]

What you are feeling are more likely 2B adrenaline surges.  We are not physically aware of blood pressure changes unless it drops suddenly when we may faint, or if it rises sharply and suddenly.  We have a home testing BP kit - I don't register at all  .  DH takes his at the same time each morning, usually B4 eating, he charts his figures for his GP every 6 months. 

4 me adrenaline felt like hot water coursing through my veins, scary until I become used to it.  I potter in the mornings if I feel vulnerable.  I don't go anywhere until about 11.00 as by then I am usually feeling better.  On a good day I can go out and about without thinking too far ahead unless the physicality sets in 

Deep breathing can help.  As can blowing into a brown paper bag.  Apparently.

Dry heaving is anxiety.  The other seems to be acid reflux symptoms, I find 'Rennies' help.

I’ve never tried Rennies ( somthing else for me to try )
I only ever notice my BP when it’s high from my head & feeling like gonna get a nose bleed  .. I have a home kit & to be fair don’t take it a lot unless GP asks now

Usually to be honest BP is fine until I get these turns & then I used to panic more so now I’ve stopped taking and only once in a blue moon when doc asks for readings

What can stop these surges ??

Thanks again CLKD xxx

[Shannonplussed]

Sertraline has helped me loads. I have gone off it a few times, and I just feel so much more myself on it. I don’t feel numb or like a zombie, it just gives me an arm’s length distance from my feelings to be able to challenge my thoughts (like CBT stuff), rather than feeling like I’m drowning in the anxiety.

Yes, the initial start up anxiety was rough, and I think I had my first panic attack. But it got better. It look a good 3 weeks for a noticeable difference. I don’t want to be without it now. I was off it for several months this past winter, thinking as my HRT was stabilized, that perhaps I no longer needed it. I was wrong. I’m a much better mom, partner, and employee on Sertraline.

[CLKD]

Tnx.  Also I didn't release that there is a slow-release Propranolol.   

[Michelle7474]

Sertraline has helped me loads. I have gone off it a few times, and I just feel so much more myself on it. I don’t feel numb or like a zombie, it just gives me an arm’s length distance from my feelings to be able to challenge my thoughts (like CBT stuff), rather than feeling like I’m drowning in the anxiety.

Yes, the initial start up anxiety was rough, and I think I had my first panic attack. But it got better. It look a good 3 weeks for a noticeable difference. I don’t want to be without it now. I was off it for several months this past winter, thinking as my HRT was stabilized, that perhaps I no longer needed it. I was wrong. I’m a much better mom, partner, and employee on Sertraline.

Hi shannonplussed
Thankyou for replying
Did it help with the Aniexty ??
That’s the one the GP suggested at a small dose and said it will make things worse before being better .. ( that’s why I was asking people was it that awful in first initial weeks )

I’m so glad this works for you and your in a better place
That’s what I need in my life .. I need to be me without all this

Glad your not like a zombie that I wouldn’t wanna be like
I wanna be me still .. my normal me who is happy go lucky
Thankyou for taking time to reply xx

[CLKD]

Most mornings I feel hung over but it's better than being depressed or anxious ;-).  It goes off by mid-morning.

[Michelle7474]

Most mornings I feel hung over but it's better than being depressed or anxious ;-).  It goes off by mid-morning.

That’s the thing CLKD you know by mid morning your raring to go ..
I would take that daily just to rid this from me lol

I will see what GP says when he/she calls

[Shannonplussed]

Yes, Sertraline helps with my anxiety. Another part of things was realizing that I feel better on a lower dose of Estrogel. Too high E and I feel jittery or like a box of frogs. Sertraline doesn’t get rid of that feeling, and in fact that’s basically what the first week on Sertraline felt like. It felt like my worst anxiety, magnified. Which while it felt rough, made me resolute that I did need to treat it, and the medication was what I needed to take (which sounds counterintuitive, feeling worse to feel better…but forewarned is forearmed).

[Michelle7474]

Yes, Sertraline helps with my anxiety. Another part of things was realizing that I feel better on a lower dose of Estrogel. Too high E and I feel jittery or like a box of frogs. Sertraline doesn’t get rid of that feeling, and in fact that’s basically what the first week on Sertraline felt like. It felt like my worst anxiety, magnified. Which while it felt rough, made me resolute that I did need to treat it, and the medication was what I needed to take (which sounds counterintuitive, feeling worse to feel better…but forewarned is forearmed).

Thanks again for replying

I know I need help , as much as I’ve been putting it off for months .. I know in myself I need to sort this
I have to .. i will speak with GP

I tried HRT patches and this all got worse for me .. but pharmist and also Dr Heather both said that maybe the dosage was too high or maybe my body didn’t need it at that point
Before patches aniexty/jittery only came before a period or one day maybe mid cycle
But then it became a daily thing so I have been off them now 10 days and awaiting a bleed which I think is coming due to this ramping of feelings this week.
I keep telling myself this won’t kill you this won’t kill you ., but when it’s happening and overtakes my body  I don’t think that , I think makes everything worse so to speak so I think it’s gonna kill me kinda thing ( although I should know by now it won’t as been happening too much ) but my brain ain’t listening

Again Thankyou so much for replying I appreciate it xxx