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Meeka

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Re: Recurring UTI /oestrogel user
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2021, 06:56:43 PM »

That’s interesting katejo . May I ask who your urogyneacoligist is ? Thank you
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Re: Recurring UTI /oestrogel user
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2021, 07:35:34 PM »

I've never been able to complete a Course of ABs.  I get too sick, dizzy and really ill.
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Meeka

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Re: Recurring UTI /oestrogel user
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2021, 08:04:03 PM »

I've never been able to complete a Course of ABs.  I get too sick, dizzy and really ill.

I thought I would have to ask for alternative antibiotic this time as they made me feel sick . I read online that other users said they could only tolerate them if taken with a meal . I made sure I only took with a substantial meal and I was ok . Just hope I don’t get symptoms again now .
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Re: Recurring UTI /oestrogel user
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2021, 09:43:19 PM »

Can I share something some of you might think is whacky but absolutely does work?

A couple of years ago I had a succession of UTIs and had a few courses of antibiotics which helped but I never felt better, well I felt better than I had but not 'better better'. I am not a natural pill popper and I try hard to have a healthy gut biome so I didn't want to end up having course after course of them as I'd read many women end up having.

So what could I do to get rid of the problem?

I starved the little gits to death. Took me 9 days and it has never recurred.

I found an old (1933) medical paper on the internet describing how they cured UTIs with a strict ketogenic diet (enter search " ketogenic diet urinary tract infection"). 1933 was before antibiotics were widespread.

It immediately made complete sense to me (a) I already knew quite a bit about the ketogenic diet as I had done some research into it as a therapy for epilepsy  (b) I'm a type 1 diabetic so I have a lot of practical experience of seeing how different foods kick out different amounts of glucose and how this affects blood sugars and all other fluids including and especially urine (3) I also remembered that when I was young and sexy and I’d occasionally got a UTI that I’d got rid of them by not eating for 24 hours.

So it made sense : we have bugs in our urine and they are living very happily on the sugar in our urine.

That sugar overwhelming comes from eating (or drinking) foods with carbohydrates.

In the ketogenic diet you really cut back on carbs which means less sugar in urine. And the bugs starve.

However, a warning. Keto has become a fashionable diet so the word ketogenic is bandied about for anything that is low carb but "low carb" is a relative term. Is 200g a day low? what about 100g ? 50g? 10g?

It needs to be less than 20g of carbs a day. 

So that is what I did. I ate no more than 20g of carbs a day. I looked up the nutritional content of everything and I weighed and measured absolutely everything I ate and drank so as not to go over by 1 gram. I needed my calculator and I kept detailed records.   

I had to really forward think and plan my meals because 20g of carbs affords you very little and you cannot really have things like bread, cake, rice, pasta, biscuits, sweets, cereals, smoothies, beans and pulses, fruit, potatoes and root vegetables etc etc. Even milk is too sugary (you can have it but it has to come out of your 20g a day allowance so it’s not worth it). On the plus side you can have as much fat as you like so I ate things like - prawn cocktail, pate, creamy cheeses, eggs, mayo, cream, buttery sauces on meat etc. Stuff I wouldn’t normally have in any quantity or regularity. I saved most of my 20g carbs for some green veg. 

After a few days I was feeling better and at around 9 days I knew it was gone - I finally felt properly better and it was then that I realised that I had never really got rid of the original infection, I’d just been damped it down. 
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Meeka

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Re: Recurring UTI /oestrogel user
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2021, 10:02:29 PM »

Hi flightdeck ,
That’s really interesting and I can see the connection between sugar and infection , especially as you have  type 1 diabetes .  My son has type1 diabetes and having good control of his blood sugar  always helps when he’s poorly with some kind of infection .    I did actually avoid sugar and carbs when I had my latest UTI and hopefully it has helped as I haven’t had any recurrence , fingers crossed .   
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