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[Taz2]

Hi David Essex Fan welcome to our menomadhouse.

Yes, you are right I'm afraid. This is a very little talked about part of the meno. It does not affect all ladies but it is thought to be the lack of testosterone. If you are "lucky" enough to have had a hyster and your ovaries removed (and I am not saying this lightly for those of you who have had to have one) then you can have patches to counter this effect. You are not normally prescribed them if you have an intact womb and ovaries as it can lead to ovarian cancer (the medical profession believe). They are called Intrinsa

You can progress to not being able to orgasm at all which is devastating. I felt like the wires had been cut which link all the erogenous zones i.e. from nipples to clitoris etc. The sensory system is affected and what was a pleasurable touch can be purely irritating.

I am so sorry this is happening to you. Some of us on here are currently still researching this topic. I will see if I can find the old posts on this. You can send me a pm if you dont want to talk openly on the forum.

Love Taz.

[Dyno-Mum]

Hi,  This has been such a helpful thread. I thought I was the only one who had symptoms that were with me for a few months, then went, then came back with a vengeance. But I see that others have a stop/start experience too. I'm 50, been period-free for two years and a bit crackers for a year or two before that. For what it's worth, I've found that Sage tablets have helped reduce the severity and frequency of flushes. My night sweats have all but gone, which is a real mercy. Of course there is no way of knowing if it is coincidence, but sage is relatively inexpensive, easy to come by and no side effects that I know of. Advice is that you should take them for 3 months on, 1 month off. Does anyone else know about sage and how you should take it? I also take cod-liver oil which helps with depression, joint pains, sleeping and all sorts of things. Finally, I agree completely about keeping excess weight off and exercising regularly - really helps with the joint pains and stress too, BUT my big discovery is how the body responds to sugar. SUGAR is a no-no for me in all forms, chocolate (Boo!), alcohol (Bigger boo!), puddings, jams, cakes, sweet breads everything. Cut that out and you can reduce the flushes to almost nil.(And get very thin!) Frankly, it's worth the flush for a glass of wine or a piece of millionaire's shortbread - but I know I'll be in trouble for the next twenty-four hours. Love to know how other people get on with sage.

[Rosebush]

In the last 'nearly' 7yrs i have tried every herbal remedy going and nothing has stopped hot sweats, still getting them 24/7, although i do sometimes get a gap of over an hour in the daytime, and longer if its cold & i walk around half naked..not a pretty sight..

Did try HRT 6yrs ago but still sweats got through..   Feeling really worn out with them now, and the prospect of going into another year with them is soul destroying.. So for anyone who has found 'something' to help keep them at bay, treat it like gold dust..

[elsiee]

Rosebush - see the post I put on nightsweats... amazing! May help you xx

[menomania]

David Essex Fan...I have also noticed that orgasms do not last long, in fact it is gone in a matter of seconds and that is not something I had experienced before.  So, now to add to the hot flushes, sleepless nights in and out of the duvet and genrally feeling rather old and no longer fresh, I have this "flash in the pan" orgasm.  In fact, I have just avoided sex for the last two weeks and I have turned into this grumpy old woman at the ripe old age of 46.

I am now trying a tincture of Sage, St Johns Wort, Black Cohash and red cloves in an effort to win the battle with Mother Nature.

So glad I have found this forum as it is 2.16am and I am unable to sleep due to the hot/cold cycle.

Menomania x

[Taz2]

Hello Menomania - 

This lack of/poor orgasm is something that I think should be talked about much more. It is something that I just wasnt aware of - though I knew that men had trouble sustaining erections as they got older (well, some of them anyway!). I find it so incredibly sad that this part of our lives might be over and I'm glad that I made the most of them while I still could    I always have to try to find the actual technical reasons for things and so I can understand that we need a certain level of hormones to ensure enough stimulation of erogenous zones etc for orgasm to happen. Some women lose far more testosterone than others at meno and these ladies are still able to orgasm successfully but others lose too much.

I get really annoyed with the medical profession who send you off in the direction of relationship counselling as if there is something wrong with your emotional feelings for your partner. Of course this can have a bearing on things but women who are in a bad relationship can usually still achieve the big 'O' by themselves. I told a really young doctor this a few months ago and he was so embarrassed that the subject of female masturbation had been mentioned. He went really red and shuffled the papers on his desk for ages!

Have a good look around the site. We are a friendly lot and there is always someone around to give you a few words of wisdom, encouragement or support.

Love Taz x

[Jacksfullofaces]

Taz
I wish I had heard you with that Dr  . Quite right too. Why does the medical profession often assume relationship difficulties. Fortunately my GP isn't like that. Some Gynaecologists are more enlightened such as Professor John Studd
 Jacksfullofaces xx

[Taz2]

Bumped up for Susie24 (or is it Susie4?  )

[nickivisagie]

 I have just found this website. I am 48 and had hysterectomy 12 yrs ago. In the last year i have been getting all the symptoms of the menopause. I can't take HRT as I get horrid side effects. My worse problems are hot flushes and sweating all day and nights. The sweats are so embarrising and as a district nurse I am literally pouring with sweat when doing dressings etc. I have to carry a towel with me to wipe my face.

Please please someone help me with some ideas. I have started taking Black cohosh but an article on this site said it doesn't help sweats and hot flushes. What does help??

[Jacksfullofaces]

Have you tried Red Clover and Menopace? Also you should avoid spicy food, caffeine and alcohol. Sorry I can't be of more help. You should also carry water with you as a drink of water can help cool you down.
       Jacksfullofaces

[Taz2]

Hi Nicki - welcome to the forum.

Did you try hrt patches or pills - or maybe both? I only ask as the pills often give side effects which are not experienced when using the patches.

Love Taz x

[Rosebush]

Hi Ladies ,

Just wanted to say i am currently using Menopace Plus, and after 10days, i have had 2nights with only 4sweats, so feeling really good this morning, hope this continues and is not a flash in the pan....will post again to let you know if they are still working..

When i purchased them it was buy 3 items get 2nd one free, so got my Ymea which i use morning time, & got 2 MPP, so i saved £14.99, so an added bonus if they continue to cut down sweats..

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[dando]

Oooh, I'm new here, joined today and am SO glad to read the threads by David Essex Fan and Taz2.  I am having exactly that problem with orgasms.  I either can't get to orgasm or if I do, then its over in seconds and not as deep or strong as it was.  I've never experienced this problem before and am so damned mad that the bloody menopause has caused this, as if it hasn't done enough.  Now I can't even enjoy any pleasure. 

I thought the problems with orgasm were due to lack of oestrogen not testosterone, because oestrogen vascularises the vagina, gives it tone and does the same for the clitoris.  Without oestrogen and its toning/vascularising effect, the vagina and clitoris lose their feelings to an extent, making orgasm and sensation difficult.  I thought testosterone was largely responsible for sexual desire and libido as opposed to sensation in one's nether regions.  I went to my GP and explained the problem and she prescribed Vagifem which is a pessary containing a small amount of oestrogen.  It worked very well, but, you can't stay on it; you can only use it for a couple of months then you have to stop.  I've tried Replens, KY Jelly, Omega 7 capsules, phyto soya capsules, the lot but none of them really work.  I feel as tho my sexual life is over  and the bloody menopause has robbed me of yet another avenue of pleasure.  If anyone knows anything else that might help, please let me know.

[Jacksfullofaces]

Ask your GP for Ovestin oestrogen cream - this is safe for long term use. I started it a week ago and it is fantastic 
        Jacksfullofaces

[Rosebush]

Oh No!! i am on vagifem and was hoping my Gp would give me another prescription..

Taz how long have you been on Vagifem?

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