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Kelrob12

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2020, 07:12:34 PM »

I felt fine when my estrogen was 3000+, just no sex drive. Sometimes I feel agitated and irritable (okay often) and I would like a better handle on that, although it seems to be less of an issue currently. I have a Mirena now and it’s nice to have one constant. The progesterone I was taking before, maybe that was variable depending on how much I ate, etc. Now I can just focus on tweaking estrogen. And maybe my SSRI.

Can I ask how is the Mirena different from \utrogestan as far as dosage? Were you on cyclic progesterone before? How did you feel with and without progesterone as now you have a low constant? Before menopause or ovary removal I know progesterone was up and down and that's why they say cyclic progesterone but during the times we don't take it then I guess we have no progesterone in our bodies which never happened naturally? I dunno?

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Shannonplussed

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2020, 12:31:35 AM »

I’m not sure how far different the Mirena is from the progesterone. It’s local for the most part, although may be a bit systemic for the first month or so. Being that progesterone isn’t terribly well absorbed, I’m not sure it’s fair because it’s not comparing apples to apples. I tried progesterone in all ways:  continuous, cyclically, orally, vaginally. It did make me overly sleepy in the morning sometimes. I don’t find that the Mirena gives me noticeable systemic effects. I had one before for 4 years and was happy with it.
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Flan747

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2020, 06:08:36 AM »

I had Mirena coil fitted 6 weeks ago as I couldn’t tolerate the progesterone phase of tablets. The bonus for me has been I have no fluctuations of mood. I used to feel really down and generally rubbish for at least 10 days whilst on it. The coil is a very low dose of progesterone although sorry I couldn’t tell you how much. Fee headaches here and there but they have been manageable.
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Jeepers

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2020, 07:02:18 AM »

Hi Kelly Louise

I don't really know. I'm tempted to lower it first, to see if it makes a difference.

Are you on testosterone too? I am on androfemme and I'm thinking of stopping for a while.

I just feel rubbish, so many pains in different places, it's so scary and miserable.

Jeepers xx
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Kelrob12

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2020, 07:15:43 AM »

I know Ive not felt like myself (mood swings included!) since they removed my ovaries and been trying to get the right balance for the past two years but don't feel any nearer!
Im not on testosterone - I was for a while but I was then on a 50mg patch (estrogen levels was 171 pmol) and if you don't have the right levels of esrtogen then testosterone converts to estrogen. I got the same feelings adding testosterone that I do when I increase esrterogen - which is tingling numb arms /body so I had a feeling I didn't have optimum levels so stopped. then I spoke to the private clinic who said based on my age that 50mg was way to low so to sort that first. So I upped to 100mg patch - and feel no better! So not sure what to do next either. But weirdly for me I have a small maybe stupid worry that increasing estrogen effects nerve endings and it regenerates them so I get more scar tissue pain which I don't want!
I sometime look back to an age why I remember not worrying about anything- would love to just feel that way right now!
Who does your HRT the GP or private?
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Jeepers

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2020, 10:48:49 AM »

Hi Kelly Louise

I go to the newson clinic. However, I'm svarec to get in touch with them, as the answer always seems to be to increase oestrogel.

I'm.having a particular my bad day today, I've convinced myself that I have ms/als or undiagnosed Lyme's disease ( I had a negative thank test last year)


I'm still getting twitching in my calves as well as other pains .. yesterday my right buttock /hip was really aching.

My ha is really ramping up

Jeepers xx
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Kelrob12

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2020, 11:33:35 AM »

Hi Kelly Louise

I go to the newson clinic. However, I'm svarec to get in touch with them, as the answer always seems to be to increase oestrogel.

I'm.having a particular my bad day today, I've convinced myself that I have ms/als or undiagnosed Lyme's disease ( I had a negative thank test last year)


I'm still getting twitching in my calves as well as other pains .. yesterday my right buttock /hip was really aching.


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My ha is really ramping up

Jeepers xx

OMG me too! I know they will just increase my patch its like they don't see you as an individual just 'YOU NEED more estrogen!" And you pay £90 just to be told it. I had a few questions for my nurse and they said yeah its £30 for her to reply 😂.  I really thought before seeing them they would be the answer to everything 😂

Im the same with the pains too - mental we feel the same - buttock, hip is particular bad and the RHS! Exactly same place as you - I also have HA, Ive tried therapy(which has worked for me in the past) but it didn't for HA. I've had two rare tumours so it starts after that really and the aches with menopause really don't help do they?

If your having a bad day they hopefully you will take comfort in that my pains are in exactly the same place as yours, the one thing I'm consciously trying to stop doing is googling - its my downfall and adds to the anxiety.
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mariawd

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2020, 05:05:46 PM »

It’s so hard to get it right, isn’t it?
I was on Femonston2/10 in the summer (increased from 1/10) and all my symptoms came back but I didn’t realise it could be too high estrogen dose.
I tried estrogel and utrogestan for a month but now realise I was applying too many pumps. I stopped sleeping, became highly anxious and began to have jump shock sensations as I fell asleep   ...I have recently gone back to 1/10 Femonston because it dawned on me that my estrogen could be too high, so fingers crossed it will work.
I am 55 and presume , post meno.
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Jeepers

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2020, 09:48:40 PM »

Hey birdy, how are you ?  :-*

The thing is, progesterone only seems to come in one dose, doesn’t it? No matter how much oestrogel, the Utrogestan stays the same.

Jeepers xx

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Crazee Haze

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Re: How to tell if oestrogen is too high
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2020, 10:25:29 AM »

Hi ladies
Has anyone tried Serenity cream ?
It oestrogen only
There is also one called 20-1 which has progesterone included
I have ordered the first though unsure if it’s what I need to stop these awful flushes ???
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