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[CLKD]

I hated that nausea when beginning new ADs.  Emitophobia made many impossible to continue with 

[daisie]

I hated that nausea when beginning new ADs.  Emitophobia made many impossible to continue with 

same here 

[CLKD]

Morning daisie >wave<

[daisie]

no one should have an opinion of there own to tell you what you should or shouldnt take if you are working with your doctor its your choice whats best for you i only need valium for emergencies not to take every day x

I’m not sure anyone has told CLKD what she should or shouldn’t take  daisie there’s been a misunderstanding along the way and if you’ve taken my posts out of context then please accept my apologies

I have clearly posted that others shouldn’t post advising that they request diazepam/Valium from their GP as NICE guidelines state etc etc

I hope you have a good w/e and your anxiety is alleviated with the Valium

Rockhopper xxx

thank you .i can only speak for myself and my experiences the anxiety is too severe for me valium is the only one that stops it.when it gets bad.iv tried different antidepressants through time with not much help from them xx

[daisie]

Morning daisie >wave<

morning ckld

[daisie]

Daisie I was about to ask you if amitriptyline makes you dopey but I see you mention that it does in the morning. It makes me groggy and muddle headed all day. I only take about about one a week as it helps me sleep, prescribed them to try to help with the aches and pains in my joints caused by hormone blockers. My body has no hormones! Also take zopiclone sleeping tablets but was told not to take them for more than too consecutive nights as they're addictive. I never take more than two a week. Fortunately I don't seem to have an addictive personality. I've never been on any AD's so can't comment on those.

hi Teresa ,yes same with me I was hooked on amitriptyline for 12 years could not get off them I tried many times but withdrawal was so bad so finished up back on them till I decided again to come off I faught through it this time I cannot tolerate SSRIs antidepressants I can say now I'm no longer hooked on amitriptyline i went down to a small dose of 35mg for a while I only take them now when I know I need a good night sleep I'm waiting for a prescription for valium but only for emergencies if I need appointments cause I suffer bad with anxiety when going on them I can't understand being prescribed meds to help you sleep only for 2 nights doesn't make sense to me how you going to cope with sleep after the two nights I'm same as you no homones I had a total hysterectomy 5 years ago not on hrt I never got that sorted out I'm still waiting for a miracle cure at 65 🥺

[CLKD]

I managed my sleeping problems by using prescribed medication: can't remember which : for 3 nights to make sure that I got good quality sleep.  Knowing that I would feel better really helped.  Used intermittently meant that I felt rested and gradually broke the pattern of not sleeping .... I found the bottle in the safe last year: not used since the 1990s. 

I have taken anti-histamines in the past when I need a good night's sleep.  Of 'Kwells' the anti-sickness medication, don't know whether it's made these days.  Accepting that some nights are broken helped me as well as being able to sleep in the day; usually when I am watching something I have wanted to see 

[CLKD]

As an aside I swallowed a peritone for allergic rhinitis last night and still feel comfortably weary :-).  Expect to doze through MogoGP 

Does anyone wake in the night to see whether the medication has worked ?   

[racjen]

If I've had a run of really bad nights and desperately need sleep I take phenergan - it's an anti-histamine available over the counter. I find it works really well, but better not to take it too often because, like so many of these things, its effect will lessen over time as your body develops tolerance to it. It's also worth saying that all of these sleeping aids - anti-histamines, zopiclone etc. will only help you get to sleep, not stay asleep, so they're not much help if your problem is anything other than falling asleep.

[funnell]

since being properly menopausal when i was age 60,back in march,the suicidal thoughts upon wakin, the extreme anxiety,guilt reg dead daughter. The traumatic,abusive childhood i had+the toxic so -called friends i had, its all i think about. I very occasionally, perhaps 1or 2 times a week take a 2mg diazepam to get me to sleep.Ive had them
prescibed for 14 years since daughter gone +doc obviously knows i dont get addicted +keeps prescibing.
I drink to excess 2 or 3 nights per week (NOT! on same night i take diaz,that would probably kill me)+ I must
stay alive for my son s sake, despite those morbid thoughts when i awake ams.I cant take HRT as recently had
breast surgery for early cancer , masectomy +implant. Was prescibed Lofepramine  one year ago but still
not started taking them as states clearly on packet NO ALCOHOL. I could take the tabs +give up alc for few weeks
till my body got used to the lofepramine I suppose ,then gradually introduce a beer. When i used to
take citalapram 14 years ago +not for long i think maybe 6 months as I m concerned about side effects,
the lady doc at the time says "yes its ok to drink whilst taking them, just means you get drunk more quicker!!"
Im still amazed she said that. ive never driven, walk places, but Ive been scared to cross at zebra crossings,
,my partner nearly got hit couple times on them. Even the light controlled crossings, ive seen cars go through the red
light +not stop, i stand there in fear, waiting for others to join me +cross or i walk much further +cross
near an island in middle of road. Im scared of men especially younger ones knowing what they capable of.
I put on my ok face before i go to work,fortunatly only work with 1 person. Crowds scare me, noise also.
i cant retire ,pension age gone up past 60 otherwise i be happy to shut myself away,order online
shopping, +not go anywhere. People that had good childhoods, non toxic friends, have got all their children alive,
etc yet they complain about trivia, their kids,etc, I used to hear all that at my cleaning job, i felt like screaming at the women,be grateful for what you v got! thank goodness for covid as i lost that job because of the shut down.
ive read somewhere the traumatic past can come back to haunt your thoughts during meno. noone here has
been through what I have?no one can help x

[CLKD]

You have been through trauma that will continue to be problematic due to circumstances beyond your control.  I would suggest in the first instance CRUSE - also there will be support groups for relatives of those taken by violence and there are groups for survivors of suicide, since the internet more and more access is there for people in similar situations.  It's sourcing those groups that can become tiring.

Could you ask to speak to a support officer in your local Police Station?  In recent years they have had more training and now have specialist officers, who may then be able to suggest a support group close to where you live.  No one should have to continue alone as you seem to be. 

Samaritans or a gay hot-line may also be a way to finding the support that you could access.   

[marge]

So sorry for all you are going through and gave been through Funnell. Good advice from CLKD above. Sometimes we all need a bit of outside help. I do hope things improve for you.

[funnell]

Hi,. CLKD +,Marge, thanks for advice but I think a bit of a misunderstanding from CLKD.Im not gay!never been! I've got a male partner who I met
shortly after loss of daughter. I say I don't like men meaning as I get older +feel more vulnerable I'm nervous being amongst male strangers.
Obviously not all men are the same,I've got a son, an ex partner, brothers, my current partner, male neighbours, none of them would be like
some of the men I +daughter encountered in past.  I was feeling real hormonal when I typed that last post.Would st John's wort help me,I wander?  Murder support online groups help as does compassionate friends,so I know I'm not alone. So many parents suffering but as I tried to explain
since the menopause ,everything seems different,  more difficult. I thought I was doing ok until it started. I just didn't realise it would affect me so much, yet I've
spoken to some women who seem to have had no problems with Meno, it s just so unfair!

[CLKD]

I wasn't suggesting that you are gay funnell - sorry.   

[funnell]

Avalon, what a wonderful post! thanks so much for trying to understand. Problem is
some men seem ok to start with but when women live with
them or marry, they can change so drastically. Just a suggestion but maybe let the trades man know you are interested  but only as a friend?At age 10 onwards I witnessed domestic
violence towards mum+to a lesser extent toward
me +my several siblings. I heard at night + saw things no child should have to +lay upstairs in
bed at night +wander if mum would be alive when i came down in am.  was 16 before I managed to leave home
but I  encountered rapists, but also a few nice boyfriends. +my current partner is wonderful. but all these
news stories each wk reg mens violence scare me. anything bad can happen anywhere. I think iv been through too much in life+menopause is bringing it all back. anyway anyone reckon taking  st johns wort will help anxiety, depression? THANKS again Avalon for your kind words.x