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[CLKD]

(social distancing and masks could become a racist/cultural issue). 

To wear a mask it has to by Law be specific to the task it is designed for.  Health and Safety - DH has been explaining.

So if the mask is to be safe either for the wearer or for those around him/her, it has to be fitted by someone who knows a) how the mask is designed to work and b) for which purpose. 

Once only masks such as we see in the Hospitals are throw away and usually clip behind the ears with elastic.  More industrial masks are fitted differently.  For those in the Fire Surface or Emergency Cave Teams or in the Chemical Industry [which is where we come in], they are complete masks covering the head, neck, face, shoulders ......... with visors .  Nothing in, nothing out.  These are in daily use which the public don't often see. 

If a mask is to be used correctly then those wearing beards will have to shave in order for a snug fit.  This becomes a problem in many communities where beards are part of the culture and a form of respect.  One Doctor has already shaven in order to wear his mask correctly to provide protection for himself and any patient he comes into contact with. 

If the NHS has had problems sourcing enough protective clothing then I think it's a long reach to insist that the public has to wear masks.  Where does it stop?  On whose advice?

I do wonder if, now that the Chinese have arrived in London to offer advice, whether this is being muted by them having had experience sooner than the rest of the World as to how masks assist. 

[CLKD]

If the Government requires it 

I have rhinitis so would need a wad of Kleenex behind it 

A Dr on TV earlier was putting on his mask - after putting on his blue gloves      FFS!  the other way ROUND! 'cos where's his gloves going after he has touched his face?

[Ju Ju]

CLKD, perhaps a nose bag inside the mask?

Well the great American President, with all his scientific knowledge and immense intelligence, has declared that all you need to wear is a scarf! 

[Tc]

I used a,dust mask on Tuesday.  It made me feel safer but probably offers little protection.  But I couldnt wait to take it off.  It fills with moisture and i actually feel like it makes it harder to breath.

Masks should only be removed once you have washed hands.

[CLKD]

Ju Ju - the chocolate in the nose bag would melt 

[Tc]

That's true stella. My mum bought some masks on Ebay. When she put one on it made her face and lips tingle. 😲

[CLKD]

Also: The US president has ordered a ship load of equipment to be turned around, it was almost at Europe on it's way to Germany.  They now want the 6,000+ items to protect those in the US but who will have access to it all?  Top end of the pay scale probably.

France put out a message earlier that when they bid for medical supplies, they are out-bid by the US.  I always said that mainland Europe need 'us' more than we need them  .......... hopefully with all equipment, GOvernemtns around the World will begin to appreciate and value their home workers.  After all, the UK were ahead of the game during our Industrial Revolution !

Never mind clapping for service workers, how about buying British .......... which reminds me 

[bear]

Hi girls,

Hope you and your family are healthy.

Here's a good and easy to read article on DIY face masks.

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/

Stay safe,

BeaR.

[Tc]

Thanks beaR. You too xx

[Pennyfarthing]

I bought 2 packs of J cloths recently and plan to have a go at making masks from them.  I was shopping this morning and put a cotton snood up over my mouth and nose but it makes my glasses steam up so I had to put it down again.

[Tc]

Penny. My glasses had steamed and slipped right to the end of my nose and I daren't touch them. What with my Darth vadar breathing through the dust mask I mustve looked a proper sight😲

[CLKD]

J-cloths can tear so be careful - ? 'photos ?  . They can also be boil washed!

[Hurdity]

The main purpose of wearing masks is to prevent droplets from coughs and sneezes as well as exhalations from speaking etc reaching others or landing on them and cuts down the extent to which they (visrus filled droplets) fill the air. Their effectivness in preventing infection to the wearer is not proven if the viruses are in the air from what I've read (although may prevent droplets from others' sneezes and coughs from entering mouth and nose), but if people are wearing them it may really help others, and especially as CV-19 is thought to be infectious for possibly two days before symptoms start. Hence its very rapid spread. So even putting a snood or scarf round your mouth and nose can help.

However the danger with wearing anything is that once you touch it your hands can be infected by the mask or scarf etc. For the purposes of protecting others I would have through the disposable ones would be best so that you could just take it off, safely dipsoe and then disinfect your hands....?

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

Dispose of where exactly?  Into landfill ......... the ones used in Chemical factories etc. can be sterilised, over and over ...........

Put mask on first
Wash hands, dry, pull on gloves

Wash gloves, remove
Remove mask

[CLKD]

Sadly if this goes into landfill ............ what are the requirements for disposal?  Double wrapped?  In what?