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[KaraShannon]

Hi Everyone

I'm almost too tired to type this.  I don't know if this is menopause related or my underactive thyroid, or the fact that my mum wants all my spare time, everyday, or the fact that I can't sleep well where I live due to neighbour noise, or the fact that so called friends have drifted away after I decided I wasn't going to put up with their projections anymore.  Long story that one. 

Today I got up, got dressed, went to the corner shop, got some healthy food, ate it, made coffee, drank it while online, thinking I need to wash my hair ready for it to be cut next week, and need to empty the bins.. very basic stuff and I still haven't done either.  It's now nearly 5.30 pm, getting dark and even if I succeed in the hair wash and the bin empty, all I've really done before evening is get out of bed, eat, wash, and prepare to get back in it.  When I read this it makes me sound depressed but I'm not depressed, just so fatigued.  I am thinking of losses in my life, my dog, my friends, other family members, but not in a depressed way, more in a reflective way because these things have happened.  I suppose what I'm trying to say here is I'm exhausted rather than depressed as I don't really have the energy to respond to too many 'are you depressed?' queries, though I appreciate the concern.

Anyone had days like this?  Anyone with hypothyroidism that is so called controlled feel like this?

[KaraShannon]

sorry to be depressing, I'm not always like this.   

[Ladybt28]

oh I really sympathise KaraShannon...not just days, I had years and years...very long story 
Its the frustration of not being able to either get a thought or action a thought....it's like trudging through treacle! and then you wonder where the day has gone and on top if your really fall into the hole...dwelling on why you can't seem to get a grip of your life and other people seemingly can!!    Been there, done that, got loads of T shirts!

Personally I reckon it's all 3 with you...hormones pay a mega part, combine it with underactive thyroid and lethargy sets in. (not that I have an underactive thyroid but I'm pretty sure someone who has would agree. If you have people stressing you out and taking up more time than you have to trudge through your own life...being a bit depressed as well wouldn't be surprising would it?
Well the news if it's any consolation there are loads of us here on the forum and else where who feel just the same so you are not alone and no... although they look like they can get a grip, those people who look like they re on top of their lives probably have plenty of days when they can't get a grip at all.

Anyway...write off today...tomorrow is on its way...it can only get better.  Put your feet up and start again tomorrow my lovelyxx

You're not alone...know all those feelings well

[KaraShannon]

Ladybt28, my bins have been emptied into bags and are by the front door, ready to go out, lol.

I'm debating a drive to get a veggie bolognese that will probably perk me up, but it means getting to the car which is a distance away and it's so cold!!!!

And I realised that I said in my first post that I wanted to wash my hair ready for cutting next week, as if I don't wash my hair very often!     I do usually, every other day mostly, but I'm getting over flu and just thought I should wash it, and if I do, then the main thing is it just needs cutting, but I would normally wash before the hairdressers again anyway.

Ok, now to pick up those bags, get them outside and go get some dinner.  Knowing me I'll come to life then and go to bed late.   

[Ladybt28]

Humm...been there and done that too...having a rubbish day and then perking up when it's nearly over and staying up half the night coz then you're wide awake!
Glad to hear you finally achieved your goals for the day   but so what if you hadn't? 
If you are getting over flu no wonder you have dodgy days..

Veggie Bolognese....car and cold?  Nah...do you have freezer?  Is there something in there?  or maybe phone "Just Eat" 

[CLKD]

You've had 'flu!  If it was the kind that should someone lay a 50.00 Pound note across the room and you couldn't even open one eye to look-see then that's 'flu.  Add to that a thyroid function issue! give youself some slack 

Eat girl eat!  Get some biscuits, cheese, beans ........ what do you have in the store cupboard that you could rustle up?  When I need a hit I boil the kettle, open a jar of Bovril, pour hot water on and make some toast.  That gives me enough energy to think about real food.

HORMONES  ..........

Get your store cupboard stocked.  Get things that you can heat up quickly, nowt wrong with tinned foods.  Porridge, fruits and nuts, pancakes - slow release foods are important.  Scrambled eggs on toast?

What's the dynamic with your Mum?  Close by? On the 'phone?  Maybe put boundaries in place, it gets easier to say 'no' once you have got over any temper tantrums  .   "That's so not adult Mother!" you can put the 'phone down, blaming a break in the line.

Get some grub down you girl, Eat, Eat ........ bananas?!?

[Kathleen]

Hello KaraShannon

I've recently been diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis so I've been doing some research. I came across a talk given by Izabella Wentz who was found to have hypothyroidism after she missed an important 9am exam because she had fallen asleep at 3pm the day before. She now gives lectures on Thyroid function and has written two books.  I agree that you may want to get your meds reviewed as soon as possible.

Wishing you well.

K.

[KaraShannon]

Humm...been there and done that too...having a rubbish day and then perking up when it's nearly over and staying up half the night coz then you're wide awake!
Glad to hear you finally achieved your goals for the day   but so what if you hadn't? 
If you are getting over flu no wonder you have dodgy days..

Veggie Bolognese....car and cold?  Nah...do you have freezer?  Is there something in there?  or maybe phone "Just Eat" 

Went to the corner shop    I have a freezer compartment, waiting to move before buying a good freezer.  I will stock my little compartment tomorrow, lol

I'd heard of Just Eat but never registered it, I have now, oh dear LOL

[KaraShannon]

I think you may need your thyroid meds adjusting. You sound like the people I see on the thyroiduk site. X

Thanks Birdy, thing is I'm on 200 mcg and that's a lot.  When I tried to take a bit more before I started getting heart flutters.  That said, that was a year ago, I might need more now.  One doctor said he has patients with up to 300 mcg but he's retired.  I've left an online message with the nurse at my surgery to ask if it's time for another blood test as I'm feeling dreadful.  The thing is I haven't had a period for nearly 2 months and I know my body is really trying to have it, if that makes sense.  I usually have crushing fatigue 2 days before a period, but I've been feeling pre-menstrual for a month now, lol.

do people chat on the Thyroid UK site?  I couldn't find any relevant place to talk, I'll go have a look.  thanks  :-)

[KaraShannon]

Finally eating my microwaved food, lol.  I'll respond again in a minute.  Thanks for walking through this with me everyone, feeling better already (but no more energy, lol)

[CLKD]

What did U choose to eat?

[KaraShannon]

Tuna pasta bake    I prefer veggie but would have to go further afield, this will do.

[KaraShannon]

You've had 'flu!  If it was the kind that should someone lay a 50.00 Pound note across the room and you couldn't even open one eye to look-see then that's 'flu.  Add to that a thyroid function issue! give youself some slack 

Eat girl eat!  Get some biscuits, cheese, beans ........ what do you have in the store cupboard that you could rustle up?  When I need a hit I boil the kettle, open a jar of Bovril, pour hot water on and make some toast.  That gives me enough energy to think about real food.

HORMONES  ..........

Get your store cupboard stocked.  Get things that you can heat up quickly, nowt wrong with tinned foods.  Porridge, fruits and nuts, pancakes - slow release foods are important.  Scrambled eggs on toast?

What's the dynamic with your Mum?  Close by? On the 'phone?  Maybe put boundaries in place, it gets easier to say 'no' once you have got over any temper tantrums  .   "That's so not adult Mother!" you can put the 'phone down, blaming a break in the line.

Get some grub down you girl, Eat, Eat ........ bananas?!?

There are lots of snacky things I could eat of course, lol.  My mother lives nearby, the biggest problem is she won't do anything at all and just waits for people to visit and watch tv with her.  She's actually a lot more able than that so it's annoying and exhausting.  I'm gradually moving away, like today I didn't go there, but she really is isolated.  She has family but they never phone one another and they are not that nearby.  Occasionally they visit, but she seems to be a bit 'ritualistic' about me, like she hates to hear that I won't be going there 'tomorrow' she'd rather not know.  Lots of weird psychological stuff with her.  I'm aware of it, but also aware she's so alone, I just wish I could get her to connect with at least one other person locally.  I had a lady who cleaned for me after an op and I got her to go to mum for a while, but mum told me she didn't want her anymore.  She apparently doesn't clean properly.  What is it with people as they get older?  Well, some people.  It was an opportunity to see another person and have a chat with someone and a bit of help with cleaning, it didn't have to be perfect.

Anyway, I'll spare you any more essay   

[KaraShannon]

Hello KaraShannon

I've recently been diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis so I've been doing some research. I came across a talk given by Izabella Wentz who was found to have hypothyroidism after she missed an important 9am exam because she had fallen asleep at 3pm the day before. She now gives lectures on Thyroid function and has written two books.  I agree that you may want to get your meds reviewed as soon as possible.

Wishing you well.

K.

Thanks Kathleen,  I've had this condition since 2000 and always felt ok on thyroxine, but my new doctor goes by the blood test whereas the old one went by how I felt.  And because I'm now on 200 mcg I'm a bit reluctant to raise the dose without a lot of reassurance.  But I've left a note with the surgery to have it all looked at again. 

I've avoided a lot of the writers on the subject because they talk a lot about natural thyroxine and my doctors have all said it's not reliable, not easy to get the dose right, etc.  I'm in the UK, I think they do more in the US.  Also a lot of the tips that have been given I've tried, like taking selenium supplements (which I've heard carries a risk according to some studies).

I've heard of Isabella, would you recommend her books?  If she has some interesting stuff to say that can make a difference I'll get her books.  All the best  :-)

[CLKD]

You Essay away 

Your Mum will survive if you don't visit every day ;-).  She's like many women who want to be looked after.  Some have the attitude that they had babies to look after them in their old age!! If you put foot down with firm hand and go say, twice a week ?   Maybe she tells her potential friends that you go so they don't feel the need to visit with her?  After a few weeks you can vary the days that you go see her, letting her friends know that you have dropped off the visits.  You don't need to justify yourself, a 'to protect my health and to allow me to do more housework' might be enough.

Some do like to share what's on TV.  But that doesn't need to be you every day?   Your Mum is alone because she wants to be, my is narcissistic so is never pleased: damned if I do, damned if I don't go visit.  When we go she cleans her cupboards and drawers ignoring us so we leave earlier than planned which means that she can go back to the Sitting Room and watch the other residents.