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[Wrensong]

Yes, Suzysunday, just said exactly that during our circuit of fields up the lane.  So lucky to have open countryside on our doorstep.  Feel for those living in city flats right now & anyone stuck inside for the 3 months in the more vulnerable category.  Take good care everyone.

[Yorkshire Girl]

We are lucky to have open countryside on my doorstep, on normal days I'm the only one out but since last week I'm seeing a lot more people All our fields apart from one are arable, I do on one walk have to go through 2 metal kissing gates.

As for shopping we have a small local Co-Op 2.5 miles away but they only stock limited about of groceries, so I have to drive approx 10 miles to get to a supermarket, my plan tomorrow is try and get as much as I can for two weeks, then hopefully just use the Co-Op for my fresh food, oh and I have the butchers who I always get my meat from.

[Taz2]

It is killed by boiling water, detergent/bleach mix.  It is unlikely to surivive really cold weather but we haven't had a proper Winter for years 

It's thought that it likes the cold and may not be quite as virulent in warm weather so there's hope it will drop back a bit in the summer. Its the uncertainty of how it is going to behave that I hate.

Taz x

[sheila99]

But all our wonderful supermarket shelf fillers and checkout operators aren't falling like flies are they? The public are all over their workplace contaminating surfaces.

209 died in the last 24 hours. How many more have to die before you take it seriously?
Supermarket staff aren't in their 80s with a heart condition. And if they get ill they'll go to bed until they're better, there isn't a single one who'll be lambing a sheep at 2am.

[suzysunday]

I also don't understand why take away outlets are open.

[sheila99]

Yes, the point she was making is that it doesn't matter because supermarket staff are also at risk. I'm sure if it was your elderly relative being put at risk you'd think differently, unless you don't care much if they die. People will die if they can't buy food, they won't die if they don't go for a walk. The situation is completely different.

[sheila99]

Actually I was responding specifically to your comment that there is no other workplace where Joe public can walk in and contaminate handles.

My answer was yes there is - supermarkets.

To then start suggesting I don't care if elderly relatives die is just plain ridiculous!

I apologise, I didn't interpret it that way.
I may not have expressed my comment about public access to business premises well, I should have made clear I meant businesses not normally open to the public.

[CLKD]

All food is essential.  Our local Pubs are cooking take out or for delivery, which means less people in the village leave to buy foods.  It's keeping people in a job.  All sealed and not handled by many from cooker to gob ;-).  Fish and chips saw us through the War ;-).  As long as take aways are keeping distances in queues why shouldn't they keep operational.  No different from shopping for other items.

More and more supermarkets have put plastic masks in front of till operators, I probably mean screens  - have you not seen the adverts today from Asda and Tesco ?  These will protect as much as possible.  Many are asking for contactless payments to avoid handling cash etc..  After all Post Office staff have been protected by screens for years.  I hope that this keeping a distance will continue 

[CLKD]

Because take-aways are part of the community?  They have queues rather than people sitting in?  People can order ahead so it's ready to be passed over the counter, avoiding as much contact as possible.  What I hate is the blue gloves used all day :-(.  I would prefer bare skin which will be washed more often when it feels sticky. 

It's about keeping people in work for as long as possible.  Even garages are shutting  so don't go breaking down anywhere soon!

How many of you know enough store workers to be aware of when they have their off days, are unwell or on duty?  I don't and we go to supermarkets 3/4 times a week usually ......... we do go to the same till worker to catch up on her news but have no idea of her working hours etc.. 

[CLKD]

Tnx.  Our local pubs have been up and running as restaurants 4 10 years + so have repurposed in order to remain in business.  The villagers are loving it.  Many were regulars there so are collecting their orders.  You might not think that take aways are essential Birdy but in this area where people need to keep in touch a food delivery enables them to connect. 

A Chinese take away is essential to the Company providing the food.  It means that food is less likely to be wasted and if they want to, once their stocks have been used, they can shut up shop for the Duration. Or they can remain open providing a service.  As our Pubs have done thus far. 

Cafes with small rooms are more difficult to keep open due to close proximity of tables.  Those that have to shop are applying for the various grants/loans that the Government has offered. 

[dangermouse]

I think by keeping the smaller food outlets open, like Chinese takeaways (which may also be family run), it means less people needing to congregate in the larger supermarkets. Deliveries are even better as less people outside of homes.

It also takes the pressure off of the government's furlough funds.

I can see how this doesn't work for more specialist food outlets though, like with the cream teas. Sounds a lovely business though for when you can get back to it Birdy! Especially the Prosecco option. 

[CLKD]

"we?re being advised. " 


Our Pub did Mothers' Day afternoon tea with Prosecco for those who had already booked.

They have done evening meals since that weekend ......... to order.  No different to going out to shop for the ingredients and cooking oneself.  Approved by the Local Authority.  The more that remain in business the less the Government will have to pay out at the end of all this upheaval and better 4 everyone's mental health. 

I find your outrage slightly upsetting and disrespectful.  Especially about the food being contaminated, that's a bit outrageous.  The Chefs have Food Handling Certs., are being offered the chance to continue working within our community and may even be able to pay their rent/rate/mortages as well as keeping a job for as long as possible. 

It's about keeping community services going in a rural community, use it or lose it!  I'm not a pub goer myself these days due to anxiety.  But for those that are friends with the owners of our take away services etc., it is helping to keep businesses running.  What's wrong with that?  Which bit of contactless payment don't you get exactly? or even paying by credit card over the 'phone B4 collection.  Each meal is ordered and cook freshly as it is in the usual way of things.

Yep a trip out of the house - we are allowed out!  Food is essential.  If I didn't have a husband who cooks I would be taking advantage of the Pub too. 

By buying local meats etc. the pubs are keeping local farmers in work.  Buying eggs etc., village shop benefits ........ absolutely no different to going to the supermarket 4 miles away and mixing with a lot more people!  Plus the use of fuel and the possibility of touching more services.  Also you are assuming that everyone involved will be contaminated 

It's a bit like because you felt it necessary to shut no one else should be in business? instead of looking around to see how your skill base might help your local community. 

[CLKD]

 

Birdy - to suggest that the food served from our local Pub/take away is contaminated has taken my breath away.  I'll put it down to your being stressed and upset at having made the decision to close your business. 

[CLKD]

It's not up to me Diane - the LA have approved the rebranding and as we are a centre of busy activities where food is a large part of the entertainment scene, the LA are very much on the case.  They will of course be taking precautions, why wouldn't they  .  Tested for what exactly? 

Taking temperature in a cooking environment would probably be a waste of time?  It's a hot place to work at the best of times.  How often would they need to take a temperature anyway?

So walking across the road to pick up food from any source being it in kit form or ready cooked by reliable sources should be forbidden?  Or walking 200 yards to pick up pre-ordered food where I live is no different to my walking to the shop and back  . For essentials.  Like food. 

You choose to close.  Your business is different to a Pub. or Chinese outlet. 

[Donnadoobie]

Not far from me Birdy, about 15 miles.  I am in South Norfolk, my daughter lives in Lowestoft