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[juliemargaret]

Thanks so much both Hurdity and stellajane. Im trying.
I may even start the progesterone tonight, sooner know the better!! Im.gonna maybe try 100mg of utro for the 12 days (vaginally too) - will this be ok? I know 200mg the licensed.dose but beibg vag would 100mg be ok? Sorry for more questions. You ladies are a godsend. X

[sheila99]

Perhaps read up on endemetriosis and discuss it with your gp before you take a reduced dose? You will need regular scans. You seem to be worried about hrt so adding an unnecessary health risk may not be the best move.

[juliemargaret]

Thanks sheila. I know x 

[juliemargaret]

Girls ....started my utro sequi last night - 200mg. Keep you all posted x

[juliemargaret]

Haha stellajane....been on my way for 5 months or so i thought!! Heres hoping this new way helps. Feel a bit brighter today....but poss a placebo feeling hahha but ill stay hopeful ! 💚

[Hurdity]

Perhaps read up on endemetriosis and discuss it with your gp before you take a reduced dose? You will need regular scans. You seem to be worried about hrt so adding an unnecessary health risk may not be the best move.

I might have missed this (easily done as I tend to skim read!) but I don't think Jmargaret mentioned endometriosis  . As far as I know (and I stand to be corrected!) HRT does not cause this (although can exacerbate it with certain preparations) and if you had endometriosis you would probably have had it diagnosed when younger and would know you had it.

Thanks so much both Hurdity and stellajane. Im trying.
I may even start the progesterone tonight, sooner know the better!! Im.gonna maybe try 100mg of utro for the 12 days (vaginally too) - will this be ok? I know 200mg the licensed.dose but beibg vag would 100mg be ok? Sorry for more questions. You ladies are a godsend. X

Nevertheless - although research has shown the efficacy of a reduced dose of progesterone ( for a given dose of oestrogen) when used vaginally compared to orally - in keeping the womb lining thin - as sheila99 said you don't want to add unnecessary health risks just at the moment by going off-licence. The potential problems from insufficient progesterone could be endometrial hyperplasia resulting from over-thickened lining which can if untreated sometimes lead to cancer.

If this regime suits you - then depending on the bleed you get you might be able to reduce the dose of progesterone after discussion with your doc.

Anyway good luck with it - nothing wrong with a bit of placebo either - it helps part of the way!! The rest is down to the HRT!

Hurdity x

[sheila99]

Sorry, meno brain again, had endometriosis on the brain as I'd just read something about it. I meant endometrial hyperplasia which gives you a higher risk of cancer. I hope you find utro suits you.

[Hurdity]

Don't worry - I have meno brain too! Often!

Hurdity x

[juliemargaret]

Hi both Hurdity and sheila.
No i didnt mention endometriosis but nevertheless it geared me up to taking the licensed 200mg anyway !! Know what you both mean x
Hurdity - i have little period type pains ..not bad but there...and a little bloody discharge. Feels loke a bleeds coming and think due to last nights 1st dose of 200mg utro vag. Need to ask you - what do i do now?  Just stay with it - ie..let whatever bleed comes but continue on the 12 days 200 utro? (And is it often normal for this to happen). Would so appreciate yr advise x

[Hurdity]

I've pretty much never had a bleed come while actually taking the utro (vaginally) so I don't know what other women do. I know when taken orally the advice is usually to take the whole course but sometimes women are advised to reset their cycle if it's a proper bleed/period. Used vaginally I would suggest if flow is heavy then the progesterone may not be so well absrobed and I don't know if there any studies looking into absorption when bleeding - well I haven't come across any ( although not looked!).

Cross that bridge when you come to it eh and go with the flow  !

Hurdity x

[juliemargaret]

Hi again hurdity.....you see I was sort of waiting for my proper bleed to try and tie in and start sequi with bleed so that it synced...but thibk the utro is definitely bringing a bleed on.....unless a pure coincedence and my period is here?! Im.definitely gonna bleed.....pains now and show already. Feel like been thrown now!! I had a lot of breakthrough bleeds when i started hrt and  took the utro alternate eves.

Im hoping one of the other women who are on a sequi and vag may know or advise what i do. Was hoping this wouldnt happen and id just be bleed free until after the 12 days at least! Coukd it be my period? Surely utrogestan takes a few days at least to.cause a bleed and not just after taking only 1 eve?
Any more advise from.you lovely lot be so appreciated. There goes my hopefully plain sailing for now!!  Knew before when the niggly tum pains started that something was brewing ! Crissakes!!X

****Update**** (sorry!)
Now bleeding. Usual achy period hips.....yesterdays 3 day headache gone. Think its my natural period! (Or is it just the prog and headaches gone as I perhaps needed progesterone?!)
Shall i continue with the utro tonight and thereon for the rest of the 12 days OR no and stop and count today as day 1 of new sequi.and re add it again in 15 days?!?!  Thinking now it explains me feeling poo last week and headachy and yesterday emotional.....
...pmt!!! Need advise please and sorry for dramatics !
Ladybt, dotty, stellajane and friends...need help ? (Hurdity I know youve replied xx)

[Dotty]

I think you need to continue with the Utrogestan for the 12 days. Hopefully over the next few months your cycle should settle x

[Dotty]

Actually , having thought about it, you might be better counting today as day 1 and start the Utrogestan on day 15 x

[juliemargaret]

Hi loveky dotty..ohh this has thrown me..just when i took the bull by the horns! Ok...so.you think.i count today as day 1.and on 15th just re-add the utro for 12 days ? (This then means ill be another 2 weeks estrogel only - well apart from the 1st lot of .200mg utro i took last night)

My mind is spinning about what to do and its nearly bedtime! (utro time!). Im thinking its definitely my period..then im.worrying its not and its just a reaction of the progestetone and the  the fact id not had any for 3 weeks prior to last night..or its just reacting and beginning to clear any womb lining thays built up from being on estro alone.!!

What do i do?

[sheila99]

I'd be interested to know if anyone has the answer and an explanation why. From my school biology progesterone is involved in building up the lining for the embryo to implant and when it stops being produced the lining sheds. So it follows that continuing with prog will at best do nothing and at worst prevent proper shedding. So I stop utro when my bleed starts even if I haven't reached 12 days. This also keeps my cycle in step with the hrt cycle. Is this theory right or wrong?