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[Tinkerbell]

I would rather take HRT if it improved anxiety and depression than the anti depressants that some doctors want to dish out. My MIL was on medication for depression for 30 years, she developed dementia and the tablets she was on is reported to increase dementia risk.

Please note i am not knocking anyone who needs to take anti depressants as i know they are a life saver, my son had to take them for a year.

[orrla]

Damn right!

..just tell all men to keep their hands off your breasts and all be fine! 

(don't kill me for this joke but, this headline today made me really mad!)

Do not panic Ladies!

[Tinkerbell]

Jeana1

From cancer research
2% BC from post meno hormones
8% BC obesity
8% BC alcohol

Using HRT has meant that i can exercise, i need systemic for VA, that helps me keep my weight down.

[Jeana1]

Hi Tinkerbell

Thank you for that. I suppose there will be a lot of ladies out there really worried like me and not sure what to do, it's like I start to get my life back on track then get hit with this study today. it knocks the wind out of me.

Will be keeping an eye on posts all day!!

Jeana

[Butterfly22]

Jeana1

From cancer research
2% BC from post meno hormones
8% BC obesity
8% BC alcohol

Using HRT has meant that i can exercise, i need systemic for VA, that helps me keep my weight down.

Exactly. Xx

[MicheleMaBelle]

Hi Jeana1- based on their research of previous trials it's estimated to be an extra 2 in every 100 of HRT taking ladies. However, some of the previous research was old , discredited and covered older types of HRT . They reckon the risk of breast cancer is higher if synthetic progesterone is used ( mainly ) on a continuous basis and less so on a sequential regime. There is very little evidence of studies based on micronised progesterone being taken into account.
Lifestyle factors such as drinking, smoking and obesity carry a much higher risk of increased cancers so I think there is some headline grabbing scaremongering going on here albeit there may be a grain of truth in the statistics. I'd keep on taking it until more information comes to light and you can then revisit your decision.

[Jeana1]

Hi Jeana1- based on their research of previous trials it's estimated to be an extra 2 in every 100 of HRT taking ladies. However, some of the previous research was old , discredited and covered older types of HRT . They reckon the risk of breast cancer is higher if synthetic progesterone is used ( mainly ) on a continuous basis and less so on a sequential regime. There is very little evidence of studies based on micronised progesterone being taken into account.
Lifestyle factors such as drinking, smoking and obesity carry a much higher risk of increased cancers so I think there is some headline grabbing scaremongering going on here albeit there may be a grain of truth in the statistics. I'd keep on taking it until more information comes to light and you can then revisit your decision.

Hello MicheleMaBelle

Thank you for your message, I think that I react so badly because of the anxiety and health anxiety (it's a mean beast!) both have greatly improved since taking HRT, I suppose my worry is that the Mirena is continuous and then with the added 3 pumps of Estrogel too its a lot of HRT. I see the gynae next month so will discuss it with him, in the mean time I think I have to "man up" and get on with it and get things under control in my head!

Jeana

[orrla]

Yes, Birdy, it came to mine!

... getting rid of by saving on post-procreative women... ? ...cutting our pensions as well..!

In Africa, apparently, they take them to the bush and leave there... as the Red Nose charity once discovered ..and built them a camp..

For some time now, I see that Meno issues more as a social issue, even political, than a medical one. Eh 

[Sparrow]

I haven't read the entire thread – but has anyone acknowledged how the release of that article about HRT being highly toxic coincides neatly with the current HRT shortages?

I don't think anything in the research says HRT is highly toxic.  It just says there is a small increased risk that women should be aware of.  As for the shortages, as I have said before, lots of other meds are short too.  Anything to do with a 'No Deal Brexit' stockpiling?

[orrla]

I agree!

..and only few days after few positive ones, in the same Guardian..

This headline today got me flying!  You can see yourself, here, how much anxiety it caused.

[orrla]

Shadyglade, this shortage is of Evorel only, because its producer did not plan accurately for, apoarently, increased demand and one component was not ordered therefore produced on time. They said that it will get back to normal only by mid next year.

[Sparrow]

Shadyglade, this shortage is of Evorel only, because its producer did not plan accurately for, apoarently, increased demand and one component was not ordered therefore produced on time. They said that it will get back to normal only by mid next year.

Well there you are.  No dastardly plan to stop women having HRT. 

I think you have to put the study into context.  All medication comes with adverse effects and this research is just making those risks clear.  It's up to individual women to balance the risk against benefits. 

Why the panic. 

[orrla]

I like your positive thinking Shadyglade!

Well, today's findings are by exactly the same Oxford group who published that flawed research in 2002 after which so many women got off HRT, and suffered in silence since...

It seems that sales picked up recently, more women are on it again.

These drugs are not cheap!

Most are prescribed, meaning increased cost to NHS.

...

Whom better to save monies on if not on older women ...who can't procreate any more, useless.. ?  In short, conservatives are in action!

[Sparrow]

Is it the same group??

I don't remember seeing that.  Where will I find the info?

Thanks

[orrla]

Shadyglade, in this very thead!

..someone quoted Prof Studds.