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[Perinowpost]

I think that's what makes this journey so difficult sometimes is the fact that we're all so different in our responses. I took 1 Provera and had a panic attack and haven't dared try it again. Glad it's working for you though Racjen. It really is a case of trial and error and as you say Ladybt28 not giving in x

[Karen max]

Hi
I spoke to hrt clinic and the doctor there said that I'd be fine taking the 12 provera one month missing it the next month as my surgery shouldn't be much longer ( won't hold my breath )
But anyways I have seemed to settle on provera I'm now on day 7 of them and been feeling ok , still haven't had a bleed yet ??

If I get to end if 12 days feeling ok while taking provera il try again next month with them and carry in monthly if I can as I'd rather take it monthly tan skipping a month ..

Hope to now the gel is definitely working better than the patch for me so fingers crossed I carry on like this ..
What I have noticed is provera is upsetting my tummy as in acid type ways but il plod on and hope for the best
My mood is definitely a lot better thankfully so here's hoping


Kaz x

[Lanzalover]

Good morning Karen max

Pleased to hear you are getting ok with the  Provera and your mood is getting better.

I have never started bleeding while taking the tablets it starts a few days after I've finished the course.

Lanzalover x

[racjen]

I started bleeding on Day 12 - decided to stop there this month to let my system get used to it. I felt OK while on it, but since the day after stopping (Sunday) I've been feeling awful - much worse anxiety and today I'm just staying in bed, the depression is that bad. If this is what the withdrawal is like I can't cope with it every month, maybe I should try taking it continuously?

[Ladybt28]

hi Karen, if you are taking them on a 12 day cycle you wont get your bleed until a few days after you stop.  Glad its working.
Obviously you might get a bit of tummy troubles with the provera because you are taking it orally but if that's all that happening with the gel and provera regime then I'd say its a result!!!  That might settle also if as your body gets more used the regime.

Racjen -I think you are the reverse of everyone else    Not a bad thing - my body doesn't do what a doctor expects for most stuff either!  Seems like you need the progesterone but only at a certain level because you "felt ok for a while" and now you don't feel ok.  Focus on what you were doing that "felt ok" and go back to that.  That's how I learnt what I can and can't do and what works and what doesn't - its very time consuming but worth it when you work out "I feel ok on this - something is working" and the stick with it to see if it keeps working.  CK

[Lanzalover]

Hi racjen

If you are post meno then you could try taking continuously you would need to lower the amount of Provera to either 2.5 mgs or 5 mgs daily I assume there are two amounts so if the 2.5 mgs doesn't control break through bleeding the dose is increased to 5 mgs.

Good luck with what you decide and do let us know how you get on.

Lanzalover x

[racjen]

I'm post-meno in the sense that mine was brought about very suddenly by chemotherapy before it happened naturally. Although I've struggled with progesterone over the last couple of years I've always had the feeling that I do need a certain amount, it just has to be the right type in the right proportion. I was horrified when 2 different specialists started throwing around the idea of hysterectomy with no evidence that that would solve my problems (all mood-based), as all it would do is remove my physiological need for progesterone. No-one seems willing to acknowledge that progesterone can have a positive part to play for some women - it is after all the calming hormone, and if like me you're suffering horribly from anxiety it surely makes sense to include it in your regime?

[Lanzalover]

Good evening racjen

Thanks for the reply have you spoken to anyone about taking progesterone continuously in a relatively low dose ?

Lanzalover x

[racjen]

No, I've seen numerous doctors now, some of them apparently 'experts', but none has suggested this - think they've just written me off as having emotional problems after breast cancer and that's that...the usual suggestions of anti-depressants and referral to mental health services.

[Karen max]

Hi

I'm on day 7 of provera and only problems I seem to be having up to now is my tummy , it's almost like acid reflex but I also take tummy protectors tabs so I can cope with it , (just about ) but if it stays like this for 12 days a month I can cope !!!!

No bleed up to now which it states on the leaflet you normally have bleed 3-5 day after starting so I was getting a bit worried but glad ladybt has said about the bleed after the 12 th .. aThank you ladybt..

The gel see,s to be suiting me better than the patches so at minute just waiting on the bleed to see how I get on with that but up to now my tummy is the only issue (fingers crossed it stays like this !!

I'm kind of feeling more like my old self , more motivation and mood definitely better ...

Ohh and less tears 😭

Kaz xx

[Lanzalover]

Good morning Karen max

Pleased to hear you are feeling more like your old self. Hopefully your tummy will settle down soon .

Lanzalover x

Good morning racjen

I think you need to speak to someone about taking progesterone in a low dose continuously sorry I don't have enough knowledge to give any advice.
Good luck and do let us know how you get on.

Lanzalover x

[Ladybt28]

Woo Hoo Karen  .... moving in the right direction...still early days and the tummy thing may settle as you're body gets used to the system.  Stick with it.

I'd be with Lanza racjen - continuous low dose progesterone - sounds like your body might like it - certainly not the usual way to go, but then most of us are "unique" in some way  but what I would say is that it sound like you have learnt a bit more about how your body reacts since you have been playing around with the hrt systems and certainly since you first started posting.  Much love sent cos you're still not feeling great but slightly more "in the know" than before.  For some of us it's just try something for 3 months, learn something, tweak it, go 3 months, learn something - its a right Pain in backside and a real long haul but sometimes it's the only way to get to the destination of "feeling better". XXX

[racjen]

Thanks for the support - tbh I've lost all confidence in 'experts' giving me advice. Having tried both private and NHS menopause specialists with no improvement whatsoever, I feel I'm better off working this out for myself on a trial and error basis (as I think you're suggesting Ladybt28). My GP is willing to work with me so I think that's the only way forward, I'm clearly a very atypical case.....

[Ladybt28]

You're not alone there racjen! How is anyone else going to understand what it really feels like for you inside?  You just have to collect as much info as you can and then experiment using what you know and what you feel.  The GP's didn't even pick up that I was a women over 45 and clearly losing my mind but then racjen have your read the posts about "Menopause Week" and that GP's are not mandatorily trained in medical school or after inmenopause, it is a "course choice" - no wonder we go through what we do!

[Lanzalover]

Good morning racjen

If I were you I would make an appointment with your GP hopefully they will be willing for you to try low dose Provera on a continuous basis which may help. As it has been said previously everyone's different and what suits one person doesn't necessarily suit another. Unfortunately it's all trail and error for a lot of women and we have to do our own research, although my GP wasn't very knowledgeable she was at least willing to go along with suggestions I made  and I eventually hit on the right combination for me.

Good luck and do let us know how you get on.
Lanzalover x