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[Dierdre]

I'm ok with the YES WB if it's in the 5ml applicators but cant use the bigger tubes as these have a preservative in because you reuse, it's a food preservative, so classed as organic but still irritates me. The 5ml little ones dont have it.  I order direct to YES now as my surgery have stopped these on prescription recently, cut backs I suppose.

[Tc]

Does anyone think ovestin is better for outside bits than estriol 0.01?

[suzysunday]

That's useful information Dierdre, thanks.  I haven't tried those.

[Dierdre]

I've only used Ovestin  but I think you need less so perhaps stronger.

[Tc]

Just to add. My surgery dont give yes products on prescription either. There is a list on the wall of items which have  een taken off prescription and it's on there!!

[suzysunday]

No I haven't been offered them on prescription from gp or hospital gynaecology when I was taken off hrt cream temporarily.

[Dierdre]

Thought it was a recent thing, I've had them on prescription for years. Ordered from YES direct cost £37.99 for 30 5ml applicators but thrt should last a few months if u use 2 or 3 a week.

[Tc]

Anyone got any experience of getting thrush while on vagifem?

[Dierdre]

I've had in once in 5 years of being on vagifem so doubt it was related.

[Tc]

Thanks. I've only ever had it once in my life from anti biotics 
Womens physio told me today I've got it today.  I didnt have any discharge  I thought the soreness was down to VA.
I've taken the one off oral pill for it.
I thought vagifem is probably not the issue as it's supposed to help with ph balance isnt it?

[Dierdre]

It's hard to know without taking a swab to test for thrush as it could be atropy soreness.  If it dont clear up in a few days  try taking the vagifem daily for a few days and see if it improves. Have you tried Ovestin for the outside, I find Vagifem works inside but I need Ovestin to keep the outside from getting sore.

[Tc]

Dierdre. I've been using vagifem and estriol outside every other night for  while but have gone to every night for the last 3 weeks with vagifem and just changed to ovestin.
Might be TMI but she said she could see the white bits on gloves and she says she can "feel" thrush as it feels "rough" inside. 
I think I'm doing the most I can with the topical eastrogens. But I am still dry compared to before my op. When I had no issues in that department. I'm struggeling to get my E levels up on the systemic HRT though. Maybe that's not helping.
Thanks for your reply dierdre.x

[CLKD]

  go back and get a swab done if symptoms persist into next week.  My vagaina has always been 'rough' in side  .  [checked with DH, Yep  ]. When I had thrush after stopping The Pill, I had an itch high up, couldn't reach but it was constant ..........

[Dierdre]

I needed 2 thrush tablets to clear mine, but I agree with CLKD to get a swab if it continues. I use ovestin on the outside every night, dont just smear it on or it sometimes causes irritation and you're wiping it off when going to the loo, rub it in so theres no white cream left. I then use Bepanthen on top of that to sooth any soreness and moisturise. Tried going down to 5 vagifem this week and have been ok, will use extra if needed though.

[Wrensong]

Tc, you might want to try the Canesten gel pessary if the oral capsule doesn't clear it.  Treating locally is sometimes more effective.  Messy when it disperses - you will need a panty liner - but clears quickly.  I wouldn't try the hard pessary (not even sure if still available) as that tends not to dissolve well if not moist enough inside.  Sometimes thrush presents without much of a discharge & can just feel sore rather than intensely itchy as it tends to be when the discharge is thick.  I found I was fooled by the difference in it  postmenopause. Sorry - hope not tmi!  They seem to have changed the wording in the Vagifem PIL - I thought it used to say specifically that thrush/candida infection can be a side effect, but checking this morning it simply refers to thrush more vaguely as fungus.  Could just be remembering the wording in a systemic HRT PIL though.