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[Perinowpost]

An IUS is an intrauterine device or coil like the Mirena or the Jaydess. Orangefoot have you got the Jaydess (Skyla)? And glad to hear it's working for you. I've been given the go ahead to have one fitted in April after coming to the end of the road with Utrogestan and I'm cautiously optimistic x

[Rosie63]

Thanks Stellajane.  I've been brave and phoned the doctors this morning.  Have an appointment for the 8th April so not too far out.  It's not the doctor I've been seeing or one that I wanted to see but I'm going to take my husband with me for moral support and so that I don't get bullied out of what I want or being referred.

Thanks for info on IUS Perinowpost.  I'm not sure I want to have something inserted as I'm so unstable at the moment, I would prefer just to be able to stop if it's not suiting me rather than having to wait to have it removed.  I'm in my early 60's so I might just be being a bit old fashioned in thinking this....:-)

Thank you again to all you lovely ladies for taking the time to read my posts and your advice and support.

Rosie63 xx

[jillydoll]

Good luck Rosie, (luv that name.) ❤️
For the 8th...
Xxx

[Tc]

 rosie. You might be surprised. After bad experience with gp I next saw one I hadn't seen before and she had a much much better attitude. It made a lot of difference. It's a good thing you are seeing someone different.
Good luck. Keep posting and let us know how you get on   🌷

[GypsyRoseLee]

That's interesting Stellajane, I've never suffered with the hot flushes, sweating or dryness etc. For me it was all about the anxiety and mood swings.

[Rosie63]

Thank you ladies 😘

[jillydoll]

I had both, Stella.....not at the same time, sweats were the first symptom, they stopped, or rather eased, and the dreaded anxiety took its place!
Not sure if you meant at the same time, or ever, .......??
Either way, I lost....😳🙂

[Tc]

Same time for me. But then everything happened at the same time after oopherectomy.
I do wonder whether hot flushes fool my brain into thinking I'm having a panic attack. With a panic attack I get very hot. It's hard to separate the two.
But the sweats are different for me than the flushes. They feel more like a cold sweat.

[GypsyRoseLee]

Were you started on oestrogen after your oophorectomy TC? Both consultants I saw said a full hysterectomy + oophorectomy was the only guaranteed cure for reproductive depression etc.

[Tc]

Gypsy. I had to wait a month to start hrt and in that month I crashed.my body and brain went into shock and it's been like trying to push water up a hill since.

It's only my personal experience but I have suffered anxiety disorder and depression on and off all my life but nothing compares to how bad it's been since the op.i didnt have a choice but if I had, knowing what I know now, I wouldve  at least kept the healthy ovary and gone Into meno naturally. but the general rule of thumb for docs is over 50 years old take them both out for preventative purposes. I realy wouldve liked the chance to weigh up the risks and benefits myself and I'm furious at myself for not questioning it.
I feel my health has suffered because of it But then  I didnt have any gynacological problems in the first place. The cyst on my ovary was discovered accidentally whereas I see some ladies periods make their lives such a misery they are only too glad to have it all gone and they feel better after.
And some ladies dont have a choice.some a lot younger than me. So i shouldnt complain. Maybe If I felt well since I would see it in a different light i hope that day comes but it's hard to right now.but it has only been 6 months. Possibly  other ladies further down the line might have a more positive experience to share
.
I dont mean to scare anyone. It is only my personal experience. It's all about risks and benefits and that's a very individual thing.

Have you researched it at all?

Best wishes x

[catlover68]

Hi Rosie63

I've had the sort of same thing as yourself. I've tried quite a few hrt and it just makes me feel so ill. Firstly I tried the patches,then tablets and lastly and the worst was the gel. I would put it on and bam I would get a migraine within an hour and feel dizzy all the time and my anxiety was through the roof! I have no idea why this would be happening as I have the mirena and really thought that hrt would help me but unfortunately at the moment I just cannot tolerate it. I am now taking a low dose of citalopram which I started 9 days ago and like yourself I was terrified of the side effects but I started on 5mgs to get my body used to it and have just increased to 10 mgs. Yes I've had a some side effects as in slight dizziness,nausea,increased anxiety and insomnia but nothing as bad as I thought. I am feeling a bit better but I do fluctuate so one day I feel ok then the next not so good. I'm not expecting this to be a miracle cure but just to help me with the horrendous anxiety,the emotional crying for no reason and hopefully my insomnia.

I wouldn't rule out trying hrt again in the future but it's just not for me at the moment.
I really hope you find the right hrt and feel better soon.

[Rosie63]

Thanks Catlover68.  I have to say I have thought about trying AD's but I don't really suffer with anxiety or depression or hot flushes and night sweats so not sure they would help with my symptoms.  I do get anxious but I think this is caused with worrying that I will never feel well again!

I'm pleased you are getting on ok'ish at the moment and it seems you are going in the right direction.  Long may it continue 

Rosie xx

[GypsyRoseLee]

Thank you for telling me that TC, it's so interesting to hear other experiences.

With you saying you have suffered with depressive episodes on and off all your life I wonder if you have actually suffered with reproductive depression all your life, caused by the hormonal fluctuations of your menstrual cycle? Prof Studd explains it at length on his website and I recognised the pattern immediately. I always suffered with PMS and had severe PND after my first baby. I recovered and was well for over 10 years (just normal PMS) but then as I turned 40 my PMS turned into PPMD and for 2 weeks a month I found it hard to function.

By 45 the PMDD was virtually constant and I finally crashed completely and was signed off work for 3 months. Seeing Prof Studd saved me.

The crash you experienced after your operation is very similar to the crash new Mums experience after giving birth +baby blues) but for some it's more serious and turns into PND.

If it's been 6 months since your operation then I'm not surprised you're still struggling to find balance. After I started Prof Studd's regime it still took longer than that before I felt reliably well for any decent length of time. I think because I had sunk so low it took a very long time for HRT to repair the damage.

Three years later I still get the occasional relapse (had 3 brief dips last year, each only lasted 2 weeks) but no real idea why?

[Tc]

Thanks gypsy.
Until meno I had never considered that my past issues with anxiety and depression might be hormonal. But I'm beginning to think it might well be the case. . I've not had children so realy this is the first big hormonal upheaval in my life. Apart from puberty but thinking about it that's when my problems began.
I'm sorry you suffered for so long. But it's great to hear how proff studd changed things for you and that you've stayed well. And even though you had some dips you got back on track it gives me hope.
Sorry my previous post was a bit negative. I'm  struggling to come to terms with it all.
 thank you for your kind reply.

[GypsyRoseLee]

Goodness, your post didn't sound too negative at all. It's good to let it all out and this is a safe place to do it.

Have a read of Prof Studd's website about reproductive depression, you might well recognise yourself. I know I did. Just like you, my problems started at puberty with sudden swooping feelings of dread (despite having a very happy childhood) and I used to sob uncontrollably the day before my period was due.

As I went into my twenties I used to get dreadful PMS black moods and rages. Talking to my family it seems like we're all very, very hormonal sadly.