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jillydoll

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2019, 04:15:51 PM »

Haha.... :rofl:     🍪🚮
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Saffy

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2019, 04:17:34 PM »

TC, yes I think doing this with an eating disorder can be really hard. I have heard that it can improve people's relationships with food enormously as it has such a profound effect on the hormonal triggers involved (leptin, ghrelin etc.) and after a while carb cravings disappear completely. This hasn't happened for me, I confess but I haven't needed to be quite as strict as those with clear metabolic/inflammatory/gut issues so allow myself the occasional piece of cake or chocolate ::).

Don't worry about the weight aspect of all this. It can distract from the real issue which is to achieve the maximum health you can. I do think you will struggle to get approval for this way of eating from most medics, even without a history of eating disorders. Even if you were dangerously diabetic the standard of care is to spread huge amounts of carbs equally between meals plus numerous snacks plus drugs to deal with the resulting high insulin spikes. The NHS is moving on this 'though, low carb is now offered as an 'option' for diabetics (fairly quietly I think) and some NHS GPs are coming around to the idea (see Dr David Unwin).

I have never told any medic that I do low carb - I just say that I cook only fresh 'real' unprocessed food from scratch, which is what the diet is at the end of the day. If questioned I would baffle them with the concept of gluconeogenesis (the process by which our bodies synthesise all the glucose we need from protein) and tell them to show me the evidence supporting the claim that carbs are essential in the diet (the answer is they're not - only protein and fat are). I would love to do this but no-one has ever given me the opportunity  ;D.

Jillydoll, I've found it surprisingly easy and problem-free. Most 'blood sugar' issues that you mention are the result of the constant ups and downs from carb-centred diets and insufficient protein and fat. When you skip the carbs and fill up on protein and fat your glucose levels remain far more steady without the highs and lows. I rarely snack and the only time I get a low is if I eat a carby treat on an empty stomach. I also fast for at least 13 hrs a day with no issues (although I do need three meals, unlike some who can do just one or two).

Perhaps I should join in one of the 'What have you eaten today' threads so you can all laugh at my bizzarely unconventional meals :D.

Birdy, I managed to avoid the foggy head by switching over to the diet quite slowly, adding plenty of salt and drinking lots of water but it seems to be quite common to suffer 'low carb flu' for a couple of weeks.

PS. You should all try and get hold of the McVities Chocolate Digestive Thins. OMG, I ate the whole packet walking around the shops one day ;D.
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jillydoll

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2019, 04:34:08 PM »

So it's very much like the Keto diet Saffy?
Is it? 🙂
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jillydoll

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2019, 05:32:11 PM »

Mcvities thins are delicious...😋
That's why I don't buy em....😄
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Saffy

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2019, 05:47:33 PM »

Jillydoll, yes it's basically a less strict version of keto. I actually started with Primal (Mark Sissons) and have lowered carbs somewhat since then. Never really aimed for keto but I guess some days my carbs are that low.

Birdy, ah sorry I misunderstood!

Low carb is a very general/broad term - for some it means technically a ketogenic diet. For those with obvious insulin resistance/metabolic issues/gut and weight problems the advice would usually be to ditch all starchy veg, all fruit (except berries) as well as grains (incl. rice, oats etc.). Even too much dairy and certain nuts can mean the carbs are too high, particularly in those who need to be in ketosis. I'm reasonably strict from day to day but not sure I could maintain that all the time  :).
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Re: Shock today
« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2019, 05:54:41 PM »

Saffy, I meant insulin resistance causes foggy head.
I think low carb is the way to go.
I eat a lot of fat now, too, and it is virtually impossible to over indulge on protein because it is so filling. Besides, vegetables are carbohydrates.
When I refer to low carb, I mean simple carbs such as pasta, crackers, digestive biscuits. 🙂

Fat is more filling than carbs and you stay full longer. It's not quite the demon it has been made out to be.
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Tc

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2019, 06:14:48 PM »

I would love to bring my cortisol down. I didnt know fasting was bad for it. Is that why it's so high in the mornings.?
Also, does anyone know if insulin resistance has any bearing on SHBG levels?
I remember a convo on here about SHBG level possibly being linked to poor absorption  which I quite patently have.
This thread is so interesting.
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jillydoll

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2019, 06:16:16 PM »

Eating anything fatty makes me feel soooo sick, and ill.
Too much sugar aswell, come to think of it...🤷‍♀️
Think I'm stuffed which ever way I go...😁
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Dierdre

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2019, 06:24:39 PM »

Can you not have a glass of milk before bed, would that help with the reflux and also keep you going till breakfast.
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Tc

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2019, 06:32:25 PM »

Deirdre.  dont know if it's just me but milk makes my reflux worse.shame cos I love it

I used to always take biscuits to bed but since I've been in utrogestan orally and it has to be on an empty stomach I go a long time without eating now. You might've hit on something re the cortisol there sparkle.
I've just had a thought. Maybe it's the utrogestan upsetting my tummy.
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Tc

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2019, 06:41:37 PM »

Yes I'm taking it orally.
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jillydoll

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #86 on: March 28, 2019, 06:54:40 PM »

Yeah Tc, you might be on to something there....
Have a look on the leaflet to see if it causes upset stomach, my hrt upsets my stomach,
Sooo bad sometimes, then it goes, then back again...I'm almost sure 100% it's the E or the Prog....
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Re: Shock today
« Reply #87 on: March 28, 2019, 07:46:45 PM »

Bloodyhell Birdy.
If I do that I'll blow the roof off the house with my burping.....😂😂😂
I've got enough gas already....😂😂
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Re: Shock today
« Reply #88 on: March 28, 2019, 08:09:23 PM »

She says burping Birdy but we all know what she really does 😳
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jillydoll

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Re: Shock today
« Reply #89 on: March 28, 2019, 08:36:54 PM »

Well, and that..😂😂😂
Didn't realise it was public knowledge......🙀🙀😳😳😂😂😂
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