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PeriWhat?!

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« on: March 19, 2019, 12:43:17 AM »

Hi everyone, I'm really happy to find this forum as the wall of silence around perimenopause and menopause is deafening. Nobody wants to talk about it IRL, I find, because we're not supposed to age, are we?

I'm early 40s, and have been perimenopausal with irregular periods (about twice as many periods as before, what's all that about?!) for a couple of years. My GP prescribed antidepressants for extreme PMT mood swings. I didn't like taking them when I wasn't depressed, so stopped.

A new GP recommended vitamin B6 for the mood swings - there does seem to be a bit of an improvement, but they're still wild. The improvement could also be down to other factors, like educating myself more and therefore starting to accept this craziness a bit more. So now I'm ready to ride this wave* and wondering if there are any other vitamins/foods that people can recommend from personal experience? Ones I've already tried for six months or so that did nothing for me are: evening primrose, black cohosh and a combined one.

*Still not quite ready to believe that vaginal atrophy is a thing. Seriously, who knew? And, more to the point, WHY DID NO ONE SAY? :o On the other hand, I'm fully ready to believe that this will help...  :vibe:
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CLKD

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2019, 08:35:16 AM »

 ;D. you'll fit right in and there are several ladies from your neck of the woods here  :welcomemm:

Forewarned is forearmed.  Some find keeping a food/symptom/ diary of use.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2019, 08:46:33 AM »

Welcome. You can have a laugh, a cry, a rant and you won't be judged on here.  I was living in Asia when I started my meno journey and so there was no treatment available and as we only came back once a year I couldn't get sorted in the short time available and couldn't have follow up appointments which might have been necessary when starting HRT so it was tough at times so make the most of this site Periwhat as it really does help to get things into perspective and will give you the knowledge to fight your corner if you feel the need. No question is too silly on here :-)
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PeriWhat?!

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2019, 09:54:11 AM »

Hey, thanks for the warm welcome and the tips CLKD, Herdwick and jaypo. I'll no doubt be browsing threads for a while. I know that sorting my sleep out and doing more exercise would also help with the mood swings. So it's just the small matter of making that happen.  :)
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AG

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2019, 07:22:12 PM »

Hi Peri,

Yes, I also found the wall of silence on this subject astonishing. I had no idea about all the c*** symptoms one can get aside from the "official" hot flushes people sometimes mention. I am in late peri, 49y, and had up to mid 2017 nothing much too troublesome. But then periods became irregular with longer and longer gaps and I got symptoms I never thought would be associated with peri, completely crazy.
Things have been improving a bit now after a bad 2018. I am not on HRT yet but have recently started to take Vagifem for VA, yet another thing pretty much no one talks about. I now sometimes throw in the word "menopause" into conversations (not completely out of the blue but as a topic), and it makes me laugh now sometimes how even women of similar age often quickly change the subject or pretend not to have heard the word. Exercise and a low dose of magnesium with some B vitamins help most for me to, and if I am too tired to e.g. run even a brisk walk seems beneficial. All the best, AG
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PeriWhat?!

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2019, 01:18:57 PM »

Hi AG, thanks for replying. You are right, the silence is astonishing. The most that women will generally say is, "oh, I'm done with all that now". And that's as far as they go! You're right about women changing the subject when it's raised as well - I am convinced it's because no one will dare to admit that their body is ageing naturally and moving into its next phase. It's the myth of the menopausal wizened old crone! No one wants to be her, do they? Everyone wants to be perky and young forever. 

I appreciate that, similar to the way people talk about birth and labour, everyone's experience is different, so it may not always be helpful to compare yourself with others. But I really think that breaking the silence has to be a good thing. Women need to hear more women's voices, not just about this but in life in general, don't we?! 

I guess I am probably early peri, 43, and irregular periods that for the past year or so have been arriving every two weeks, although sometimes there are three, five or occasionally six weeks in between. The irregularity it what has been making the sudden mood swings hard to manage, there have been many times where I've felt so out of control, I haven't even recognised myself.

I'm not on HRT yet either, I've been advised to keep it in reserve as a last resort. We'll see. I'll try magnesium in addition to B6 and try to step up the exercise, thanks for the tips. x
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CLKD

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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2019, 01:20:41 PM »

Do you feel that you would like to try HRT?  It can take a while to find something that suits after all, so browse round.  Maybe decide which symptom you would like to ease first.
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PeriWhat?!

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2019, 01:25:30 PM »

Do you feel that you would like to try HRT?  It can take a while to find something that suits after all, so browse round.  Maybe decide which symptom you would like to ease first.

I'm not ruling it out, but I'm more inclined to try the minimum intervention routes first, CKLD. What puts me off is knowing that it would have to end at some point anyway so it feels like it could be delaying the inevitable. BUT I am well aware that I might have a lot more symptoms to come that I don't even know about yet, so I'll definitely search the threads on here to find out more. Knowledge is power and all that. :)
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AG

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2019, 07:03:03 PM »

Hi,

Yes, I find the silence surrounding this topic stunning. I really noticed a step change in my symptoms when my periods became very irregular from being pretty regular all my life before that. HRT may be a good option in the right combination and dosage. I have not yet used this option for myself but am not ruling this out later on. If using magnesium it is best to use a low dosage in my experience. Another thing that helped for me was cutting down on caffeine and refined sugar, and I have started eating more nuts and similar instead. AG
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Meg

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2019, 09:24:50 PM »

I too am stunned at the amount of ignorance still surrounding menopause and the drop in hormone levels. Many women are unwilling to talk about issues, it is still surrounded by a lot of taboo like mental health.  It amazes me that even now women can have a hysterectomy and not know what has been removed or what the impact of having surgery may be.  Why women can be so tight lipped is something I dont readily understand.  I have spoken to ladies who dont see the link between their symptoms eg anxiety and the drop in hormones or those who believe it will be over in a couple of years when in fact many symptoms are for the rest of your natural including the sweats which for some of us never stop. At least with this forum women can talk openly if they wish.  I only hope that in future more specialist free clinics may be available for those many driven to desperation.

Meg
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 08:28:07 AM »


There doesn't have to be an end date for HRT, you can take it forever.  The best overall health results seem to be if you start taking it soon after menopause starts. Usually from 50 +..
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PeriWhat?!

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2019, 10:40:41 AM »

At least with this forum women can talk openly if they wish.  I only hope that in future more specialist free clinics may be available for those many driven to desperation.

Meg

I hope so.
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PeriWhat?!

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2019, 10:45:57 AM »


There doesn't have to be an end date for HRT, you can take it forever.  The best overall health results seem to be if you start taking it soon after menopause starts. Usually from 50 +..

That's interesting, shows how informed the last GP that I saw was, ha.

When I saw a male GP, he mentioned HRT at the first indication of anything hormonal. Next time, I got a female GP, who chucked antidepressants at me and told me to stay away from HRT. Next time, I got a different female GP who suggested B6 and told me to keep HRT for a last resort. So I think this forum is likely to be much more useful!

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2019, 08:29:33 PM »

Hi PeriWhat?!

 :welcomemm: from me too.

Sounds like you are very much in the early stages if your periods are still pretty frequent - but whaaaat? All those different suggestions from the docs - just shows we do have a long way to go before the medical profession gets its act together and gets up to date about menopause!

As you are early 40's - you may feel that it is too early to start HRT - although some women take to it like a duck to water at this stage. However have you thought of the contraceptive pill? There are some newer ones which contain the same oestrogen in as HRT (estradiol) and one of them QLAIRA also contains one of the newer generation progestogens ( fewer side effects) and only has two tablet free days. This would regulate your cycle after a few cycles and give you a predictable bleed and hopefully minimise the mood swings? Just a thought if the unpredictability of it is what is causing you the most problems. Often women in your position are too old ( ie over 50) so can't take advantage of this option.

As Moanybreeks says - there is no end date for hRT provided you are not medically contra-indicated - and more to the point worrying about what you might feel if/when you eventually stop HRT is NO reason not to take it now - because you can never take away all those years of better quality of life - say 10 years down the line. :)

Hurdity x
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PeriWhat?!

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 11:14:07 AM »

As you are early 40's - you may feel that it is too early to start HRT - although some women take to it like a duck to water at this stage. However have you thought of the contraceptive pill? There are some newer ones which contain the same oestrogen in as HRT (estradiol) and one of them QLAIRA also contains one of the newer generation progestogens ( fewer side effects) and only has two tablet free days. This would regulate your cycle after a few cycles and give you a predictable bleed and hopefully minimise the mood swings? Just a thought if the unpredictability of it is what is causing you the most problems. Often women in your position are too old ( ie over 50) so can't take advantage of this option.

That's a good option that I hadn't even considered, thanks Hurdity! It's causing a lot of issues in my family life, work life, even my social life. And I know it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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