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[Kb21]

Reared it's ugly head again the last two days badly.. Feel constantly jittery!!  Hyper vigilant this morning. So annoying, had a short period of time where it wasn't so bad.

[CLKD]

   how has your diet been in the last 4 weeks, i.e. C.mas and New Year?  I find if I miss a meal, 3-4 days later I feel ill.  It can be as simple as not eating enough breakfast, or not eating at the 'right' time 4 me.

Can you graze? i.e. dried fruits/nuts.  Porridge for breakfast.  Bananas.  Ginger or Rich T biscuits to lay the stomach.  Regardless of whether it's meal time, get some supper into you. It's a long while overnight and that bugga cortisol at dawn can make it worse!

[Roseneath]

I really sympathise with you kb21. I had a few months where my anxiety was much better but over Christmas it plummeted for no apparent reason. I seem worse in the mornings when like you say I feel all jittery, can't concentrate, negative thought loops etc. How is the weather with you? Here is has been very dark and grey for a good 3-4 weeks now. Hardly any sunshine at all. I really think this doesn't help and also for me being in the house is the worst ; especially as our house is old and dark. I have been trying to get out for a walk every day, just for 30 minutes and also do a Mindfulness App (Headspace or Pacifica are free) for 10 mins to calm my mind. It is now easy though but try and be gentle with yourself. It will pass although I know just now it seems it never will.

[Kb21]

Over Xmas I just ate more than usual, especially carbs, it seemed to help my sleep, I slept like a log over the Xmas period. I've been healthy eating since new year, not crash dieting but alot less calories.

I hate the winter, I really struggle with the lack of light. This anxiety is different to my normal anxiety. I find it doesn't need triggers, it's just there.

Really hate it!!!

[Meg]

Dear Kb 21

This is just how I am with the anxiety.  As you say, it is just there.  Most often very bad on waking but can be present all through the day!  It is the absolute pits and leaves you in a pretty depressed state while many are also struggling with the depression that meno often brings with it as well.  I wish to goodness that there were more dedicated health personnel who could help women with these debilitating feelings, still even now sometimes taboo.  It would be wonderful if there was more research going on into what happens to our hormones in menopause and solutions to help with the jitteriness, loss of confidence.  My own personal symptoms have been going on for over a decade, I have consequently lost hope of them stopping.

Meg 

[suzysunday]

I am the same, really bad in the morning and going on all day. It's like electricity going through me, shaking. These last few weeks terrible after a health scare. It really frightens me it's so intense.

[Roseneath]

We all seem to be very much in the same place anxiety wise. I am sure the time of year just tips things over the edge. Yes I do feel like I have generalised anxiety now; that is my default feeling. When I get the very odd crack of a smile it is really just a tiny glimpse of how I used to feel all the time ten years ago. Lighter, optimistic, just going about the day.  My husband think media / screen staring is a force for bad too. He think if we were all outdoor camping or working the the fields we would be more physically tired so wouldn't have the mental churn. Curse Google - it has given me so much to worry about over the years! Peri throws up so many things you need to get ' checked out' that I didn't know were coming; discharge, insomnia, joint cramps, brain fog - all those GP trips just fuel the anxiety. I am waking at 4am too in the last few weeks.   I have bought a SAD lamp which is lovely to sit in front of. Would love a sauna or hot tub in the garden too.....

[CLKD]

Anxiety is normal.  It's what keeps us safe.   Bugga ........ knowing that doesn't stop those awful surges which really can floor me.  Within seconds I can be on the floor, curled up, wanting to die.   . Thank goodness for a small emergency pill.

Eating well.  Exercising.  All helps and being outdoors can ease symptoms.  Lots of fresh air, walking and taking time to stop - looking at stuff that 1 would miss.  However, when anxiety floors me I can't leave the house    . 

Waking regularly in the early hours is a sign of depression.  Add cortisol to the mix and ............ then my brain starts.  Whirring.  So fast I can't tie any particular issue down 

Group 

[Kb21]

Very frustrating.. Fell asleep about 10pm just woke with a real start, sweating and panicking. Thinking I was at my mums and went to go look for her. I'm not, I'm at home. Took me a few seconds to realise. Freaked me out......crazy train of hormones 

[CLKD]

Deep sleep can do that.  I often wake cold, wondering where I am.  At least in the day I don't dream  .  For me it's refreshing.  Appnaretly earlier I was muttering about being cold, eventually woke and DH had put a blanket over me   . 

[Kb21]

CLKD... Been trying hard to get my 10000 steps in daily and trying to eat well... Just got to ride the storm if I can.

GP was supposed to be doing a phone consult with me on the 3rd.she didn't bother calling. Need to try book another appointment, but sure what for, was going to ask for some diazepam but don't think she'll go for it. On waiting list for CBT, 3 month wait.

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[racjen]

Sorry CLKD, but the kind of anxiety that's being talked about here is absolutely NOT normal, and you're not doing anyone any favours making that kind of statement. That 'it's just here for no reason whatsoever, and whatever i do or don't do it won't go away' feeling is very different from behaviourally based anxiety, which has a learned cause and can be treated with therapy. This is quite definitely a chemical thing, and no woman should be left feeling that there's no solution - there is a solution out there, it's just incredibly hard to find as it's so individual (and sorry everyone, I haven't found it yet)...All I know is, no-one should have to just accept living this way for years on end, it's not living, it's hell.

[Roseneath]

Interesting thread. From everyones' experiences on this forum  my take out is that unfortunately I don't think there is a solution for Peri/Meno based anxiety which we all assume is caused or ramped up by hormone changes. For many of us despite many GP visits it is a 'norm'. We are all fumbling around in the dark trying HRT /ADs/ CBT / Vitamins. No one seems to have found either themselves or via a GP a route to vastly improving it long term (i.e. for months at a time) .  We are all up and down with it from a pretty rubbish baseline. Even people who pay top dollar and go to clinics still seem to be up and down for years. I think there is so much still to be discovered and hope it will be when my daughter hits 50.

[jaypo]

Ha,you hit the nail on the head roseneath,we really are all fumbling around in the dark,anxiety is awful,I've never suffered with it until a couple of months ago and I thought my life was over but thankfully I got through it,just hope it doesn't come back.isnt it terrible all these women suffering and not much advances scientifically,let's hope there's something for the next generations

[Jillm]

Just posted on my original thread, but seems to also fit here.
Sadly my mum is no longer here for me to talk to & menopause was not a subject we discussed, what a big mistake that was.
Won”t make that mistake with my 16 year old.
Just speant 1/2 hour in the bath crying my eyes out, anxiety hit again today, feck not fair Monday & Tuesday were pretty good.
I've decided this will not get the better of me, my friend has her lumpectomy tomorrow & I feel like such a wimp. I will pull myself together.🤪