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[NaturalMystic]

Hi all, I hope you've had a good Xmas.

I suffer terribly with intrusive thoughts, always about dying
. Usually after I have an unwell feeling, esp heart flutter.  My brain is telling me this is my day, I'm going to drop dead of a heart attack. This takes me into an anxiety attack, until it goes away.  It can come from nowhere but of late most mornings.  Been on hrt gel and coil for a month now.

Back on amitriptine, 20mg, at night.  This does help me sleep better so that's a positive.

Anyone else?

[Conolly]

Hello NaturalMystic,


Yes, I had them whilst in perimenopause. The more I approached menopause the worse they were but then they suddenly stopped. When I tried HRT for 3 months it didn't make any difference. Clearly hormonal in nature but not easily controlled. They will go away eventually.


Conolly X

[NaturalMystic]

Hello NaturalMystic,


Yes, I had them whilst in perimenopause. The more I approached menopause the worse they were but then they suddenly stopped. When I tried HRT for 3 months it didn't make any difference. Clearly hormonal in nature but not easily controlled. They will go away eventually.


Conolly X

Thank you hun.   had these on and off since early 40s,looking back the start of my peri.  I'm now 50 and they have ramped up again.  So frightening.

When its happening I feel the need to freeze, not fight or flight but I force myself to move and do something.

[Conolly]

Exactly what happened to me, so hang in there, they are just a chemical reaction. Try mindfulness, it worked wonders for me.
Big hug 🤗


Conolly X

[AgathaC]

Yes, I have these. Completely overwhelming. Come with nausea, dread in stomach and actual feeling that I'm about to drop dead.

[NaturalMystic]

Yes, I have these. Completely overwhelming. Come with nausea, dread in stomach and actual feeling that I'm about to drop dead.

Yup, and dizziness, esp when out with the dog.  Have a feeling of weakness in the legs, as though they will fail me.  Crazy but exhausting fighting it, well carrying on

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Yes seems a lot of us with these feelings xx I sometimes get them before bed so takes a long time to settle and go to sleep big hugs xxxx

[NaturalMystic]

Yes seems a lot of us with these feelings xx I sometimes get them before bed so takes a long time to settle and go to sleep big hugs xxxx

That's the best time for me.  Being tea but a few glasses of (7%) wine 🍷 totally relaxes me.  Some say that's bad but so are many legs drugs so i go my way

[suzysunday]

Yes I've had a belly full of these feelings for ages now and I'm exhausted. Those feelings of dread, worse in the morning but often going on all day. I'm 60 now and would like less of this!  Times lately I've really wondered if I'm losing the plot and it's quite scary.

[CLKD]

When deeply depressed I had this.  Afraid that my Mum would die, she was 70 that year and people die at 70, don't they  .  She's now 92  .  Appropriate medication eased the depression.  I continue to DREAD my husband dying, I wake in the night with a gasp.

[anais]

NaturalMystic
I suggest you see your GP for. 24h ECG if you haven't done so already. If anything, it will put your mind at ease. Whenever I have had a 24 h ECG my ectopics decide to behave. Stress is definitely an aggravating factor too. At the moment my iron levels are high because I have haemochromatosis and ectopics can be a symptom of that. I had another 24h ECG in November and they aren't fussed about seeing me until February, but when it's all kicking off it feels horrible and it makes me panic, and then the panic triggers more ectopic. And so on.

If you can- breathing exercises. I lie down and do my 4 by 4: breath in for 4, hold for 4, breathe out for 4, rest for 4. There are so many different breathing techniques but when I'm agitated the 4 x 4 method is easiest. You can increase the count to 5 once you're settled a bit more, and then switch into maybe a slower technique if you want. I find that if I'm getting ectopics when I begin the breathing, they are much reduced after 20-30 mins, but I need at least 15 mins of relaxation and breathing exercises to calm it down. It definitely changes the body chemistry.

I need to do this more often myself! 

[NaturalMystic]

Hi Anais

Yea I've had the 24 hour monitor.  The results were over 400 extra heart beats in that 24 hours, she wasn't concerned at all.

I do the breathing thing when its happening, exhausting.

Just done 10 mins on my exercise bike (starting slowly lol).

[Kb21]

I had intrusive thoughts when I had post natal depression after my first child who is now 13yo. It took me a long time to recover from this. Interestingly they have returned with what I presume is peri.

I ended up have a psychologist do some CBT with me about 2 years after the the post natal depression started! This was very helpful.

I have just referred myself to steps to well being again, did the assessment over the phone on Xmas eve. I have to wait at least 3 months for any therapy.

Have you considered therapy for this?

[NaturalMystic]

Hi 

I am referring myself for CBT in the new year so hopefully will get somewhere.

Sometimes life is just shit.  Having an anxiety free day today thus far xx still we all know that can change in a milisecond 😣

[Roseneath]

There is also an online course called Beating the Blues that your GP can refer you to (I am in Scotland but I am pretty sure it is national wide). It is a bit old fashioned with 8  x 45 minute units and case studies acted by very bad actors but there are some bits I took out of it. It is more for general anxiety.