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CLKD

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Friendship group
« on: December 10, 2018, 07:52:47 PM »

Looking back my friends have been mainly white.  In the 1960s, apart from the air-men on the local US bases, I didn't encounter any one other than from the UK.  I did have pen friends: one in Malaya, but never saw photos - another in Australia ........ an American boy attended our Primary School for 6 months as did the local travelling children - parents had bought properties so that the kids could get regular schooling or they popped up seasonally - i.e. around fruit picking time.  There was 1 Italian girl, no one would talk to her in the Playground so I did.  She lived near me and began to teach me Italian ........ but then they left  :'( and I wasn't able to get their address as it was sudden. 

Even in Dance Class until I was 18, we were all English.  Despite many Companies being from Russia etc.. 

When I went to work in the NHS at 18 I mixed with different cultures and loved it.  As someone interested in human geography it was like going on holiday ...... from all corners of the World, as it was a teaching hospital.  When some went 'home' on leave they brought back presents; from Egypt, India, Nepal ........ some of those I still have.  We exchanged recepies - funnily enough, those from Egypt were very 'English' - meat and 3 veg.  ::) but DH often cooks curries learned in those years as we have access to many ethnic markets with fresh ingredients - some I don't even recognise  ::)

However: apart from my GP, our Dentist and the Post man, I don't come into contact with many from outside of the UK.  The post man is from Nigeria and we talk when possible about our differences.  My GP and Dentist are 1st generation - the latter chats willingly about living in Kenya B4 moving here.  They know about their heritage without needing to go into records as I do when searching genealogy, as it has been handed down orally. 

A few years ago we met a family from Afghanistan - they had left there to live in Holland so the 5 children spoke their tribal language; Arabic; Dutch and were learning English ....... he dealt in lapis lazuli, sadly we lost touch as he no longer attends the Antique Fair that we go to every year. As he relaxed his English improved, initially he was quite stilted when talking to us but by the end of an afternoon chatting, he had improved.  The children moved through 3 languages quite easily it seemed.

French was a disaster dahling  ::) - the tutor was French married to an English man.  With great patience  ;D - I don't think she returned to France because I wasn't learning well - did she  :-\. I had done French in ballet class  :D

Watching Nadia on The 1 Show earlier, who stated that she doesn't celebrate C.mas with baubles etc. but 'was born on Ch.mas Day' ...... not 25th Dec.; triggered a thought that I don't have anyone in our circle that isn't English or Welsh.  There are 3 Indian families in the village but our paths don't cross other than when I wave to the Granny who looks after the babies.  We had an Indian friend locally for 3 years who went back to her grandparents' home to help out 6 months ago.

I suppose my point is: that although I live near 4 large multi-cultural towns, our paths don't cross except talking with those in the service industries or shops  :-\.  I feel that I'm missing out.
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2018, 08:21:51 PM »

Sorry to mention my cruise AGAIN 😊 but the majority of staff are from Asia,India mostly but also Thailand & the Philippines,I absolutely adore them,the waiters have the best sense of humour you could imagine,the phillipino women are adorable,we struck up a real friendship with one woman,who after getting to know her told us that she had two children who she only sees for three months of the year as these people work 9 months of the year on board.we returned the following year on the ship but didn't expect to see her as they are moved from ship to ship,we were just walking along and we heard our names being called and there she was,Angelique, I couldn't believe she remembered us after a whole year,considering there are 10s of thousands of passengers in that time.They are truly wonderful people,working 7 days a week for 9 months of the  year
I wouldn't have believed their humour,their banter is brilliant,unfortunately some people on board treat them like they are slaves,snapping fingers and talking down to them,hideous.
I always look forward to meeting them,put our people to shame re work
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2018, 08:28:00 PM »

That's one thing I can't stand, the talking down to , or snapping fingers!
What makes a person do that?
It truly gets my blood boiling!
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2018, 08:59:43 PM »

Don't worry Jill,the staff have just got to smile politely but I ain't staff & I'm not good at biting my tongue
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2018, 05:16:11 AM »

Where I live now is white middle class, and I find it a struggle at times and boring. Despite being raised here, I lived in some really multi cultural places for 10 years. I agree with you CLKD, I feel like I'm missing out.

What's really lovely though, is my son went to a very multi cultural school for a while and now he's not but he frequently says he really misses it and I've assured him that university will give him that again. (and hopefully me to a degree, I know I'm not supposed to live through my children but hey :o)

We visit cities as often as possible to immerse ourselves in different cultures..

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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2018, 08:29:06 AM »

Sorry but I find this post quite offensive - I think it is both condescending and patronising.


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CLKD

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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2018, 09:51:13 AM »

We are often encouraged to integrate but if we live in a mainly white area then it becomes difficult.  Even at antique fairs most are middle class white traders.  If I go to F1 or MotoGP [rarely these days] I can mix with other cultures and it's been fun.  But those meetings are transient.

You mention your cruise as often as you like Jaypo  ;) and such lovely stories - thank you. 
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jaypo

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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2018, 01:37:50 PM »

How did you know I was going on a cruise clkd,have I mentioned it before?😂
We're the same in Wiltshire,no mix at all,so when we go on our c@#£se(to be whispered) I absolutely love all the different cultures amongst the staff & hearing all their stories about their families & home life,truly fascinating,one place I'd love to visit is India
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2018, 02:29:26 PM »

Mum's care home is owned by a family from Sri Lanka.  They are very caring, inclusive and the staff in general follow their lead.  I have bought Mum a travel book about the Country for C.mas as she wants to learn more about their culture, I'll have a look-see B4 I wrap it ;-).

I can't travel due to anxiety.  Getting from A-B is hard work some days so meeting with others is enjoyable.  Many years++ ago we had a chap who played cricket - his name was Taric but he spoke broad Yorkshire  ;D

Also: it would be nice to share experiences about periods and menopause to see how other cultures deal with it all.
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2018, 06:14:38 PM »

Bramble I don't see why you say that.

All we're expressing is that we'd like to have a more diverse friendship group but it doesn't seem to happen.
That's what I was thinking, I love finding out about new cultures etc,sorry if I upset you bramble x
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2018, 08:36:55 PM »

I've been quite fortunate in having friends from a fairly wide range of cultures, although they've all moved away/I've moved away from them now and I miss them, though we still write or email.  Australia, Portugal, Poland, New Zealand, Ecuador, Nigeria, France, Ivory Coast, Eritrea, Sudan.  I love sharing our different traditions, especially at times of year like Christmas.  And the food, of course!  I LOVE Nigerian and Eritrean food.

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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2018, 08:50:23 PM »

OH!  maybe a new recipe thread  ;D

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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2018, 11:45:11 AM »

Here's the thread.   ;D  I agree Stellajane ............ most of the people I know are acquaintances though there are those that I would run to in an emergency that don't frequent our home.
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2018, 01:34:17 PM »

It's nice living where we do, we are 'English' Brits. Living on the outskirts of a Spanish village our clients are a mixture of, Swedish, German, Spanish. French, Dutch with a handful of other cultures.
We get on well with everyone but there is always the exception & race makes no difference. Sometimes beliefs or custom's can be ' interesting ' or even enlightening. Wouldn't it be boring if we where all the same.
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Re: Friendship group
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2018, 04:03:08 PM »

I remember as a 9 year old an Italian girl arrived in our school out of no-where  :-\ and stood at the side of the playground, alone.  Grumpy Gob took her under my wing and then she disappeared ......... because she lived opposite our housing block we met on the green most evenings and she began teaching me Italian.  I wish I knew more so that I could track her down  :-\

Do you speak languages suziq?   
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