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[CLKD]

Food.  There's an issue on The 1 Show right now.  In case .......... maybe this will stop us being such a throw away society.  ON-line buying, 20% that seems a low amount to me.  But apparently it's driving up the need for warehouses.

Which is building on green fields ......... 

[Shadyglade]

Just cancel Brexit, then there is no need for stock piling.

What a shambles.  Our government should be concerned with the  NHS, schools, and the misery caused by Universal Credit.  Instead they are spending billions and wasting time on Brexit.

Beam me up Scottie. 

[katsclaws]

It was a democratic vote to leave the EU. If this is overtuned that is the end of  UK democracy. The UK was putting far more money into the EU than it was getting back.

[CLKD]

Yep.  But the Government of the Day had no exit plan.  Then DC walked  ..........

Why not simply leave?  Tell them that we won't be paying any more into the system, that if they want things from us they will need to ask .....

Simples 

I don't have room in our pantry to stock pile much.  We buy in bulk when we are able from a warehouse, human and bird food. 

[katsclaws]

I agree that there was no exit plan CLKD.
I think that the amount of money lost through remainers with influence trying to hijack the leave process must be huge. The Cabinet Ministers and MPs unwilling to support Theresa May should have resigned when the referendum result was revealed.

[Shadyglade]

No deal would be a disaster.  I live in Kent and the dread of what will happen to our county with operation stack is a real worry.  It's on our local news practically every night. 

I am not a happy bunny. 

[Katejo]

It was a democratic vote to leave the EU. If this is overtuned that is the end of  UK democracy. The UK was putting far more money into the EU than it was getting back.

Absolutely NO. Democracy is a changing process. Not frozen in time. Now that people have seen that there may well be problems with supplies of essential basics like food and medication (just one aspect of many) ,  They should have the chance to vote again. Many UK projects benefited from EU money which our Government would not have given them. Just remember that Farage announced, before the result was known, that he wouldn't give up if Leave were to narrowly lose. Why should Remain have done any differently? Remain is not responsible for the chaos which has developed since the Leave win. The Leave side refuses to take any responsibility.
In the current situation no one has won anything. The sooner Brexit is abandoned the better.

[CLKD]

We voted to leave.  Not for anything else.  Not for this farce.  A cross-party leave Committee should have been formed, this is not the job of the Prime Minister who should be governing the country.  It is the MPs that were voted in by the people that should be putting our thoughts through, not assuming that we think as they do, therefore ....... but once in, the man in the street is forgotten about.  MPs turn their backs.

A referendam is that.  A vote by constituents on a particular issue that Government cannot agree on. 

I agree katsclaws.  We are seeing history being made  .  Now, where's the lock to the pantry 

[Katejo]

We voted to leave.  Not for anything else.  Not for this farce.  A cross-party leave Committee should have been formed, this is not the job of the Prime Minister who should be governing the country.  It is the MPs that were voted in by the people that should be putting our thoughts through, not assuming that we think as they do, therefore ....... but once in, the man in the street is forgotten about.  MPs turn their backs.

A referendam is that.  A vote by constituents on a particular issue that Government cannot agree on. 

I agree katsclaws.  We are seeing history being made  .  Now, where's the lock to the pantry 

'Leave' was never defined. That is one thing which is clear. Some Leave voters only voted that way to display anger towards the government. Different voters had different interpretations. Do you really want to find that you become poorer and that your supply of essential medication is no longer available?

[jaypo]

Apparently we keep having to vote until we get it right,its the same as Nicola sturgeon,Scotland voted to stay part of the uk but no no no Scotland you were all wrong,Nicola wants another vote😖 & another,makes a mockery of referendums

[Katejo]

Apparently we keep having to vote until we get it right,its the same as Nicola sturgeon,Scotland voted to stay part of the uk but no no no Scotland you were all wrong,Nicola wants another vote😖 & another,makes a mockery of referendums

It would not be a repeat of the referendum but a vote on the final deal. If you made an offer on a house in good faith but then discovered that the owner had lied to you and concealed subsidence and a rotten roof (leaving you seriously out of pocket), would you be stoic and still buy the property?

If we voted on the final deal (based on facts not fiction) and Leave won, I would have to accept it and wouldn't push for another vote.

[Shadyglade]

It should be remembered that Leave won by a very small margin.  Almost as many voted Remain.  Given that, and the entire shambles we have now, and that both leavers and remainers seem to hate the deal May has got,  another vote seems essential.  I know many Leavers who have changed their minds.

As for parliament,  there is no chance that Mays deal will get through.  In that case, May will be out and we will probably get a general election, a referendum or both.  If we have a general election Labour will probably get in so who know what will happen then.

All those who say 'just leave' anyway have to be very sure that there will be no disaster.  Nothing has convinced me that there won't be.

[Kathleen]

Hello ladies.

The news about Brexit is beyond depressing!  It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.

I saw some shoppers being interviewed  and they seemed to think the whole procedure should be straight forward. They said things like  ' we voted leave so just get on with it and  leave !'. The problem is leaving the EU is  complicated and we will all suffer for years to come if it isn't done right.

If we were to have another vote we could base our decision on all the information that we have learned over the last two years and we'd be wary of false promises such as the 350 million promised  for the NHS that was never going to happen.  Basically I believe we were asked for a simple answer to a complicated question and we need time to think again.

Sorry if this is a bit of a rant ladies but we all know how important this subject is.

Wishing everyone well.

K.

[Katejo]

Hello ladies.

The news about Brexit is beyond depressing!  It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.

I saw some shoppers being interviewed  and they seemed to think the whole procedure should be straight forward. They said things like  ' we voted leave so just get on with it and  leave !'. The problem is leaving the EU is  complicated and we will all suffer for years to come if it isn't done right.

If we were to have another vote we could base our decision on all the information that we have learned over the last two years and we'd be wary of false promises such as the 350 million promised  for the NHS that was never going to happen.  Basically I believe we were asked for a simple answer to a complicated question and we need time to think again.

Sorry if this is a bit of a rant ladies but we all know how important this subject is.

Wishing everyone well.

K.

I agree with you 100%

[CLKD]

We haven't had correct information since B4 this idea was muted by Churchill.  He wanted peace across Europe but none of the MPs of the time did.  By the time it was decided that the UK might benefit, the original entrance plans for joining had moved on, France and Germany had closed ranks and for some reason, the UK played by their rules  .  Which meant that all along we've had little chance of debating issues or saying 'no' if it wasn't in our best interests 

Ted Heath pushed it forwards and apparently, the Referendum then to go into the Common Market was a 'yes' vote.  But most of the entrance had been agreed.

Now we are in a bigger mess than B4 but we should not get another Vote.  Otherwise it will go on and on until it becomes what others actually want and that isn't Democracy.  What we should be able to have is access to read the 'deal', DH got it up earlier and even as a Researcher used to reading between the lines, couldn't get a grip - all the Clauses and b, c, d etc. means it needs a team of lawyers to interpret it.

It will be what it turns out to be.  No one can predict if the UK will be/not better off.  We haven't got there yet.  We can't know if we would have been better staying out completely. 

What bothers me is the UK being held to ransom over good food stuffs and medication accessibility, however, I haven't seen NICE or the Health Minister making front line news about that possibility!