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[jillydoll]

Hi everyone.

This may be a rather stupid question, and apologies if it is, but here goes,.

Do emotions use UP oestrogen?
What I mean by that is, ..............everything has been hunky dory, felt ok, no crying, no moods,
Sleeping well, eating well, all been ok. So,
Why is it that for the last couple of days, I've had rather a lot going on with, we'll say ‘just life'.
with worries about the future to deal with, had a lot of discussions with family members and so on, and so on, and now today, I feel like I'm going crazy again, like my heads going to burst, crying a lot, feel totally down, and could easily slip into a rage, and my anxiety has started up again.! So because of all the discussions about what's going on, emotions run high, and so on. Does that in itself, make hormones alter?
By the way I was feeling last week, looking back this wouldn't have bothered me so much, (I don't think anyway), so is it shifting hormones, or is it just the pressure and worry over everything?
It's ok to just up the dosage of my hrt, but I'm a little confused as to wheather it's that what's making me feel like this, or just everything what's been going on....you see what I mean.?

I know it's probably stupid, I feel stupid asking,........any advice much appreciated.....

Thanx.....jd xx

[Rosie63]

Hi Jillydoll.  I'm not an expert on menopause and hrt so not able to say whether oestrogen can use up emotions. However, in my view, I think although we feel and probably are doing ok on a particular hrt regime, there's always that underlying ‘thing' that doesn't take much to cause a set back.  I think that perhaps if you've had a lot going on in your life, especially if it is emotional ‘stuff', then that could cause a bit of a set back for you. 

I know it's easier said than done sometimes, but maybe you could afford yourself some ‘me' time to try to get back on an even keel 😊

Wishing you well Jillydoll.

Rosie63

[Annie0710]

It's not a stupid question

I had been merrily sailing along on oestrogen hrt for 13 years since my early 30s when my dad died suddenly.  I was 45 and it absolutely shattered me as I'd lost my mum at 36 to a sudden death too.  Within weeks I was faced with so many unexplained symptoms, far different from the set that had me put on hrt in my 30s but lo and behold I think it was after my dads death and my inability to cope well with it that probably my ovaries upped and left there and then x

[jillydoll]

Thanx for replying, Rosie63 &Annie0710.

I've been like this before, when family issues popped up, it's almost like the slightest ‘problem'
throws me over the edge, it's got to the point where my OH doesn't tell me most things because he doesn't know how I'm going to handle it!
I feel such a failure because of it!
When I'm on top form, and I know there's something up,I'll ask him what's wrong, sometimes he'll tell me if he knows I'm good, then about a couple days later I have a set back.
So now, he keeps things from me. I feel I let him down, that I'm some kind of freak who everyone has to pussy foot around, which that in itself makes me feel terrible.
I keep saying  to myself, for god sake grow some  🎾    and deal with it, instead of being a mess!
The anxiety is sky high, giving me all kind of weird feelings, I even had a slight panic attack earlier,
but managed to calm myself without anyone knowing.!

I just wondered if it was just ‘me' being a total wimp, or my hormones again.
I've upped my hrt, well, I will tonight, and see if I'm any different in a couple days time.

This is what floors me, everyone has problems, but mine seem to make me feel ill, I can't deal with them, and thought maybe it's not  the hormones at all, it's me......

Thanx again ladies.......jd xx

[jillydoll]

And yes Rosie, I will try to make time for myself.
I think that's a really good idea...x

My god, Annie, you've had it rough haven't you.
I know a bit what that's like, I lost my mom & dad, in a 2month period.
That alone is enough to make us loopy. I was close to my mom & dad.
It sure as hell is traumatic.

Hope your both well, thanx for taking the time to post......xx

[Rosie63]

I've always been a bit prone to have some kind of reaction when I'm worried or upset about something, even when I was a child.  My mum used to call it ‘a touch of funnies' 😂 I think that's why I suffer with IBS because mine is all down to nerves, rather than any physical problem.

I've been doing really well for the last month on my current regime but the last week my hair has started to fall out at an alarming rate.  I think OH FOR GOD SAKE......another thing to worry about !!!
The brain is such a strong force, it seems to rule our bodies sometimes.

Hope you feel better soon Jillydoll and don't forget - be kind to yourself 😊

Rosie xxx

[Lanzalover]

Hi Jillydoll

Sorry don't know the answer to your question but hope you'll soon be feeling better.
I do know the first couple of years post meno I couldn't deal with family problems or upsets they would make me feel like you are feeling now but those feelings have now passed and I can deal with most things.
Increase the HRT and see how things go and in the meantime let DH deal with them.
Take care and be kind to yourself for you 


Lanzalover x

[jillydoll]

Thank you Lanza,
You've brought tears to my eyes......lol
I'm hoping one day I'll be able to manage everything again,
and you being the same gives me hope.
Thanx....
Xx

[NorthArm]

I'm like this too, Jillydoll. I literally feel like you do for the slightest thing, even paying a bill or doing house work. I force myself to do it...then I feel incredibly relaxed afterwards. For example, I have a car (for my daughter, still a learner) that needed a new battery. Simple job, right? Nope. I'd have such an anxiety attack every time I thought about it...it took me 9, yes NINE months to get the courage up to do it. And when I did it, I had to ‘float' mentally (those of you with extreme anxiety know what I mean by that) to do it. But I felt quite ok afterwards. It's horrible, I just want it all to stop 😥😥.

My son has been critically ill for the last 4 months and is now coming through it....I literally floated for ages, but now am full of the wobbles. I don't feel it when I'm at work - sometime I wish I could work 12hours a day, seven days a week, just to not have to face it 😥😥

I don't know if upping my oestrogen patch will help, I'm on 75mcg now, so will be very interested to see how you get on xx

What I do know though, is that oestrogen helps to keep seretonin levels good, so you may have a point xx

[jillydoll]

Hi NorthArm.
I'm so sorry to hear about your anxiety. It truly is the most horrific thing to experience isn't it? And I hope it gets better.
It's just that as soon as there's a problem, I can't handle it. And wonder if those extra emotions use up more oestrogen than usual. Because it always seems like from that moment I'm off again, so I up my hrt for a couple days and then feel better, stay like that for a while until the next issue. Then it all starts again. It's crazy.
I can't stay on the higher dose as the prog in it gives me chest/breast pain, so I drop back down to a level where im ok.

I'm glad to hear your sons on the mend, that must have been traumatic,
Hopefully, the worst is behind you now........

Thanx for replying.
Take care....... jd xx

[sheila99]

I wonder if HRT takes the edge off rather than being a cure. I still get anxiety and poor sleep but there are things in my life I'd expect to be anxious about, and anxiety can lead to poor sleep. A certain amount of anxiety is part of normal life, as is mood swings and sometimes poor sleep so it can be hard to tell what 'normal' is. I've been up to 3.5 pumps of estrogel but am now back on 2 and I still feel the same. Perhaps try increasing it and see if it makes any difference? You can always reduce if it doesn't.

[jillydoll]

Yes that's what I'm doing Sheila99. Thanx.
Maybe I'll try and stick the higher dose out for as long as I can,
And see what happens.
Thanx.....xx

[Lanzalover]

Good morning Jillydoll

Hopefully you're feeling a little better today.

 


Love Lanzalover x

[jillydoll]

Hi Lanza.
I am a little better thank you.
Still a bit tearful, but I'm getting there.
It's so hard to hide how you truly feel away from family,
I know you should let them know, but to have them worry over me, and fuss,
is something I don't want at the mo. It's not that I'm ungrateful, it's just that I want to be left alone , if that makes sense.
And I know deep down, I'll be back to being ok in a few days, so what's the point in worrying them.......
Thanx for asking, hope your ok....enjoying the cold now your back from sunny skies?
That's the down side isn't it?

Jd xx

[CLKD]

The gut is apparently the 2nd brain.  For me I get sudden nausea and it floors me.  Can be immediately there's an issue, or I react 6-7 months later.  I was raised in an angry household so my gut has always felt upset  .

Add to that nausea prior to periods  and panic attacks.