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Author Topic: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?  (Read 12750 times)

Robin

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2018, 09:47:56 PM »

No because that's something that doesn't help anybody whereas Diazepam does help some people when used appropriately.

My situation is far worse than I write in my posts. I have been struggling a lot again recently and stopped posting due to some of the unpleasantness on here. It's such a shame as this forum has been what has kept me going through extremely difficult times.

Its too upsetting when I'm struggling. I won't be posting any more. Thank you those who have offered me words of wisdom and a helping hand. Also all you ladies who have given me a few laughs along the way and of course all the fabulous information.

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Conolly

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2018, 10:00:27 PM »

Hello Robin,


I hope it wasn't my post that has upset you. Don't stop posting because of this, all of us are struggling one way or another with many health and emotional issues. Posts are static, we write what we think/feel at that particular moment, they're not supposed to hurt anyone. No one can feel your pain, so all we can do is to support each other.


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Robin

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2018, 10:43:58 PM »

thats the point I was making. All of us are struggling or have struggled in one way or another even if we don't feel able to be open about all of it. There have been several unpleasant posts recently and although none of them were aimed at me they made me feel very uncomfortable, worried about the people they've been aimed at and because I was struggling made me feel more hopeless. There are many of us struggling so I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds these sorts of things affect them negatively. I believe all our experiences are valid. Many of the medications we take would be dangerous if used in the wrong way. Pregabalin is one of those. I use diazepam very sensibly. It has saved my life. Emmapurple sums things up perfectly I think. I'm just not made of sturdy stuff anymore but I wish you all well

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Emma

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2018, 06:20:10 AM »

Just a reminder that personal attacks on forum members is against the forum rules and will result in a suspension or ban. You can use the ignore/friends function in your profile to filter members you may not get on with.

Emma
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racjen

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2018, 08:03:20 AM »

Conolly, something being popular doesn't automatically make it a good thing; it's generally acknowledged now that benzos are being over-prescribed and GPs are being advised to get their patients off them:

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/clinical/clinical-specialties/prescribing/one-in-three-benzodiazepine-prescriptions-last-over-a-year-gps-warned/20034824.article
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Shadyglade

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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2018, 08:30:32 AM »

The truth is that most of us will experience at least one episode of mental illness in our life times.  So I can't understand resistance to medication for it when we happily medicate for physical illness. Also, just the same as physical illness some people need short term help and others long term.  I myself have experienced two episodes.  One was peri related and one due to family crisis.  The second time I was given Diazepam as well as ADs.  This was because I experienced a 3 day panic attack and thought I was literally dying. 

However, I see diazepam (Valium) as an emergency med.  As a regular med they can be dangerous and I have a family member who took years to come of them.  So long as the patient is aware and the doctor regulates the prescriptions they are a useful and necessary tool. 

For me I resist taking any medication for long periods so was only on ADs for six months at a time and only had one packet of diazepam.  For others I can appreciate that this would not be possible.  We all function and respond differently.

Hope you are feeling better Robin :hug: 
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Tempest

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2018, 07:39:43 PM »

Kathleen, can I ask if you are still taking Venlafaxine? I think I remember you mentioning quite a good while ago that you were, or have you stopped? It is very useful for anxiety for many. xxxx

ETA: Ooops! Just spotted that you're already taking it, Kathleen! Sorry!
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Tempest

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2018, 07:59:28 PM »

Racjen, I am so sorry that your prescriber allowed you to become dependent on diazepam. The blame surely lies with them as they should have adhered to the prescribing guidelines.

Diazepam however should not be banned. It is a very useful drug - indeed, it is crucial in treating severe cluster seizures and can actually help to save lives. It has other uses other than just for short term anxiety management.

I am sad that nothing much seems to have changed on this forum since I went away and then returned. I must admit that it is not the place for me - and so I am bowing out again. I shall continue to liaise with and support my fellow surgical menopause sisters on other platforms, and wish all of you success in navigating your menopause either with or without HRT and hope that you have many happy, settled post menopausal years. Thank you to those of you who have shown me kindness.

All the best.

Love,

Tempest. xxxx
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CLKD

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2018, 10:51:01 PM »

 :'( I'll miss you Tempest  :foryou:
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Shadyglade

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2018, 05:57:15 AM »

Oh what a shame. Don't go as the forum needs a variety of views and experience, otherwise it will be too narrow and polarised.

We are none of us clinicians but can do our own research if views here don't match our own. We need different ideas to help us expand our own.

I hope you reconsider Tempest.  :hug:
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CLKD

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2018, 10:21:43 AM »

It happens on many Forums >sigh<

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Lisa1966

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2018, 12:02:32 PM »

I'm sorry if I have upset you tempest,please come back the forum needs you.

         Lisa xx
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Hurdity

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2018, 02:40:43 PM »

Getting the thread back on track – how are you doing Kathleen?  I think the difficulty with the discussion has been because although your thread  title asks for experience with anti-anxiety meds, you seem to be actually asking for their use in menopause ie for hormonal anxiety.  This is clearly an emotional issue but  there are views from those with long-standing emotional or mental health problems, some who by their own admission have sadly felt suicidal, and those who have experienced  menopausal depression and/or menopausal anxiety not to mention other forms of reproductive depression like PND and extreme PMS. It's no wonder there is such a diverse range of opinions and very strong views. It could be easy to get caught up into feeling that you fall into this category  -  and only you know whether you do, whether you can cope, are seriously depressed, and really could not function without medical intervention ( ie drug treatment) or could be a danger to yourself.

Racjen and Conolly have given some helpful links and have made valid points about hormonal/menopausal depression and anxiety being different and requiring different treatment. The NICE Guidelines are clear about this. 

If not, then as per the link Conolly gave – if it is a menopausal/hormonal symptom then a drug solution should be a last resort. I hadn't realised you were already taking anti-depressants and I hope you don't mind my asking but was this after you started HRT or for life events and feelings in your life unconnected to menopause or  hormones, or pre-dating HRT and menopause? If you were given these  since taking HRT for hormonal anxiety – this is perhaps a pity (especially as it doesn't seem to have worked!) – only in that it makes it difficult to sort out the HRT treatment that works best for you – because as you said in your earlier posts – the ADs themselves have side effects so how can you work out what's what? The thing that worries me for your sake is that say it was the continuous progestogen in the Evorel conti making you feel like this – then you end up taking medication for the side effects from another type of medication – in this case a synthetic progestogen (norethisterone). Of course it might not be that but as I've said many time and have others – if you try HRT on a cycle with the same or a different progestogen you would be able to work out if these feelings were due to the HRT – either the progestogen, or too low a dose of oestrogen – or nothing to do with any of this!!

I have no particular axe to grind here as I don't take ADs but have experienced the negative effects of some progestogens. And know that I feel well on a cyclical regime. I wouldn't want to see you go further down the medical route if there were a simpler solution that didn't entail more drugs long term. Not to mention as the others have said (according to the link) – being over 60 these drugs are not advised anyway (notwithstanding some members who have been taking them intermittently for several/many years and are over this age!) and behavioural solutions favoured.

Those who have suffered any form of reproductive depression such as PND may also find that a strictly hormone replacement treatment (with oestrogen) actually is very effective, without other medical intervention – as per Studd's regime. There is much information on his website about this.

None of this is to minimise the benefit that some members have obtained through drug intervention but I can understand the words of caution expressed and why.

I do hope you will let us know what you decide and how you get on Kathleen, and hope you find a way to resolve this which is best for you short and long term.

Hurdity x
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CLKD

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2018, 10:41:01 PM »

Can anyone explain how anxiety differs from 'hormonal' anxiety.  That is, anyone who has experienced both?  I am fed up with supposition.

Dr Dalton found out that hormones certainly do change temperament throughout the monthly cycle.  That is well documented and NAPS helped me a lot in the 1990s.   Mainly with the suggestion of eating little and often even through the night.  Still works 4 me, fortunately.

Because I was already on appropriate medication by the time I went into peri, fortunately I remained reasonably stable . 



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Shadyglade

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Re: Any Experiences of Anti Anxiety Meds?
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2018, 05:52:07 AM »

I can relate to that. Having experienced it in both circumstances they both feel exactly the same.

If you break a leg how you broke it makes no difference to the treatment.
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