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[Noheroicsplease]

I'm really sorry. This is not the first time I've mentioned this.

I've upped my estrogel to 4 x pumps a day after a rocky few months earlier in the year when I felt very bleak. I was taking one/two most days previously.

I feel better emotionally/mentally since then but I've gone from a 32DD to a 30G. 4 Cup Sizes. This has been in the past 2 months.

I hate how they look and how they feel. It's not painful now - the tenderness has gone - but they're heavy.

I do a lot of exercise and i'm very conscious.

I know it's ridiculous but today i really wonder about the trade-off.

I don;t know whether to try dropping a pump and see if that makes a difference to either.

Any thoughts?

[Tempest]

If they continued to be tender, I would say that you have too much estrogen now. This is one of the signs of excess, as listed in the 'too much, too little' section on Hystersisters (they know their stuff about hormone balance over there)!

If it's really bothering you, i'd maybe go down to 3 pumps and see how you do? More is often not more when it comes to HRT - it's about how you feel with the least amount of side effects. xxxx

[Noheroicsplease]

Thanks, Tempest.

The tenderness has gone; they're just big and heavy!

I'll take a look at the sisters

x

[Tempest]

It's a great resource over there! 😊 xxxx

[Daisydot]

I've still got soreness and mines also feel huge and I was only on one squirt daily I thought maybe if I did as advised and increased to 2.5 they'd ease off but no such luck.Ill have to drop my consultant an email when I get home and see what he suggests he did say it was unusual for this as usually estrogen reduces breast pain.

[Binks]

I have 34jj after a lifetime of high oestrogen levels , I'm on one pump a day and glad to see them shrinking !!

[Noheroicsplease]

I've decided to decrease the number of pumps. I literally cannot stand it. I'll see how they feel on 2/3.

[Daisydot]

I did exactly that over 2 days and decreased to just over half a squirt and I actually had a better night with them and also my tongue isnt bothering me so much im just going to try this and see how it goes i cant stand that constant pain if it doesent work then ill have another scan but ive a feeling it's the oestrogel.i didn't have this previously.

[Tempest]

Ha! Just increased to 2 x 25mcg patches and I have rather monster boobs today! Who knew?!? Just goes to show - the ERT is powerful stuff even when your own estrogen is in the toilet, which mine is!! At least I know it's 'getting through' though.......xxxx

[paisley]

It's strange isn't it how we all react differently. I remember being on 4 pumps of oestrogel years ago  & never ever had sore boobs while some women can be on 2 pumps & have them

[Hurdity]

It is normal to experience breast tenderness and maybe some pain initially when you increase oestrogen (like in pregnancy) as well as when you increase progesterone, but if it persists as has been said - it could be too high for you. I think most women will say that their breasts are at least slightly larger on HRT. Oestrogen will of course make them denser, when they would naturally become lacking in substance and somewhat floppy after menopause - mine certainly did ie the floppy thing, then the increase in density and slightly in size. You want to achieve an oestrogen level that makes you feel good - no persistent low mood (apart from what life throws at you), and no flushes and sweats, but without adverse side effects - and of course offset against progestogenic side effects which will be greater with higher doses of prog (needed if on higher doses of oestrogen). A tricky one for many of us!!

In your case it might be interesting to have your levels tested just to see what sort of absorption you are getting although I know this is not normally done and can be very unreliable? Come to think of it - do I recall you did have your estradiol  levels tested a while back?

Hurdity x

[Tempest]

It is indeed strange, Paisley! Btw, how are you doing? xxxx

[Daisydot]

Wee update for you noheroicsplease.
Definate boob pain improvement and I don't feel so sore and bloated and it's only been a couple of days.I cut right down and the nipple pain has completely disappeared and the left one doesent feel so hard in places as before.yes I know it's quick but I can only tell as I find.my tingling in sides of tongue has gone now too I bloody hated that it scared me.Im keeping doing this for a couple of weeks and ill keep you posted.x

[Wilks]

I don't like my big boobs!
I don't understand why HRT can make your boobs bigger than they've ever been! I can understand that they may increase in density so they sag less, but surely my oestrogen levels even on HRT are lower than they were when I was younger?

[Hurdity]

I don't understand this either Wilks for the same reason! They do get bigger if you are fatter but I'm actually slimmer than I was during peri-menopause ( and late peri-) but boobs are defo bigger - not hugely so though. I actually like it because it minimises the effect of my more "male" shape which we all get post-menopause ie the midrif increase and lack of waist. Means I still look in proportion rather than straight down as my hopes are the same size as they were when I was 18!!! Sorry noheroicsplease that doesn't help you does it?! 

Hurdity x