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[Daisydot]

Hi ladies so sorry I forgot but just an info update on the hrt spray lenzetto.
It is available in Italy to buy from the pharmacy but you have to let them order it in and because I was moving around between France Germany Switzerland and Italy there just wasn't the opportunity to order some to try.
I will definately try when I'm in Spain next then I can do another update.
I'm happy enough on the Oestrogel pump but I hate the palaver waiting on it to dry I've got skinny legs so it takes me ages to get dry even on just one pump.xx

[Mary G]

That's good news Daisydot, it sounds like Italy have a very similar system to Spain. 

[Daisydot]

Yes I think so.how are you doing on your lenzetto spray are you still using it,I'm in Spain on the 10th for a few days so I'll go see the pharmacist when I arrive and have a chat and order some.x

[Mary G]

Daisydot, I'm doing extremely well on the Lenzetto thanks!  As you know, I liked Oestrogel but I find Lenzetto even easier to use - it dries in seconds - and I feel it gives me a more steady dose of oestrogen.  You will be able to get it in Spain in any pharmacy but you usually have to order it so make sure you do so at the beginning of your holiday although the pharmacy I use has same day delivery if you order before 2pm.

[Lanzalover]

Couple of quick questions about Lenzetto spray.

1) How much does it cost in Spain ?

2) Is one spray the same as one pump of Oestrogel ?

3) why is Lenzetto not prescribed in the UK ?

Many thanks

Lanzalover x

[Daisydot]

Morning LL
From what I can remember from MaryG s posts it's just under 14 euros for the spray.
One spray is slightly stronger than the gel and dries in seconds which I would guess is why it's slighlty stronger as it absorbs faster
Can't say why it's not prescribed here it'll be the usual politics about costs etc probably.
as you know certain medicines are widely used in Europe that we don't have access here to like the sachets for breaking down mucus in chest infections,I suffered terribly with recurring pleurisy for a year until I eventually got a friend to post me over that particular med which is around 4 euros a box of sachets,(it was then),and I've not had another chest infection or bout of pleurisy for 3 years now.
Most of the pharmacies I know will no longer give out antibiotics without a private prescription and the pharmacists are excellent at advice so the days of buying stuff willy nilly are long gone it's more regulated now I think.
I'm sure MaryG will come on later and give you up to date info.xx

[Lanzalover]

Morning Daisydot

Many thanks for your reply.

Think I'll try it when in Lanzarote next month.

I did think it was probably something to do with cost but €14 euros isn't much.

Lanzalover x

[Daisydot]

Hi LL I'm over in Spain next week for a few days so I'll update you after a few days of using but MaryG is very pleased with it.
It's readily available in Italy too but I just didn't have the time to go back in a day if I ordered it from pharmacists it was too complicated due to time restrictions.xx

[Mary G]

Lanzalover, Lenzetto (Evamist in the US) costs €10.77 and it contains 56 doses which each contain 1.53mg of oestrogen so slightly higher than Oestrogel. 

I am using two pumps every day but split the dose by 12 hours.   I've been using it for 8 weeks now and I really like it.

As for why it isn't available in the UK, probably on cost grounds as usual.   The NHS seem to be very conservative and not very open to new forms of medication, it took them forever to agree to prescribe Oestrogel.   The UK is practically the only place in world that doesn't licence Utrogestan to be used vaginally - something that nobody has ever been able to adequately explain.

As Daisydot said, Lenzetto is available in most parts of Europe.  It has been licensed for use in all EU member states by the EMA who, ironically, are based in Canary Wharf although they will soon be relocating to Amsterdam.   

I would say definitely give it a try.

[Abba Fan]

Hi Mary G, I currently use 3 pumps of Estrogel, how many sprays do you think is equivalent? I'm going to purchase Lenzetto in Spain in June because I like the idea of the quick drying time. Did you notice any difference when you changed from Estrogel to Lenzetto? Many thanks in advance.

[Lanzalover]

Thanks for the info Mary G.

Lanzalover x

[Mary G]

Abba Fan, 2 pumps of Lenzetto would fall slightly short of 3 pumps Oestrogel but you obviously need a high dose of oestrogen so I would go for 3 pumps of Lenzetto straightaway to be on the safe side and not upset your levels.  You will find it very easy to use but you need to spray each individual dose in a different place on your inner forearm - there is a diagram in the PIL which is easy to understand.  Of course you go back to the same spot 24 hours later.  Do you split the gel dose? 

I didn't notice much difference from Oestrogel although I do feel that Lenzetto gives me a more stable dose of oestrogen and I don't feel the side effects from the Utrogestan as much as I did before.  I am now into week 9 and really like it, I think it has a better delivery method. 

Go for it, I think you will like it too!

[Abba Fan]

Mary G, yes I split the dose, 2 at night and one in the morning. Great news you're getting on with it, long may it continue. Thanks ladies, for all your info on this product.

[Daisydot]

Hi MaryG can I ask are you on vagifem pessaries or testogel in Spain? Xx

[Mary G]

Daisydot, I get the testim from Professor Studd and I don't need vagifem, probably because I'm on a high dise of systemic oestrogen.    I forgot to say that the very minor irritation I did get down there (from tampons) has disappeared with the Lenzetto!

Another member has managed to buy a small amount of testosterone OTC in Spain.