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puddlesmum

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Damn Utrogestan
« on: January 16, 2018, 02:37:37 PM »

OK, I need someone to work through this with me.  For nearly 5 months I took 1 pump Estrogel and no Utrogestan because it affects me big time but I still had a period. Prof Studd told me to go back up to taking 3 pumps daily and the Utrogestan again for first 7 days. Well I don't want to do that as it will through my cycle right out. SO, I want to take it to coincide with my body, so I bleed when I'm bleeding already.

I have a 31 day cycle these days.  I become fertile on day 13 - day 19 and ovulate on day 18.  I started to take Utrogestan on day 18 - day 24 (which is today). Now normally I have really really bad PMS day 25 - day 31 then I get my period which takes it all away again.  Does this sound right? Or am I going to be off by a few days?

I also started to take Mirtazapine 15mg at night (I'm already on Seroxat 50mg) and now I'm so wired it's ridiculous. Is it the Mirtazapine or is it the bloody Utrogestan.  I'm getting similar symptoms to what I normally get in the build up to my PMS (the odd muscle shakes and I start to feel nervous) so what is it do you think? 

I called up Prof Studd's office again as I was hoping that Mr Watson would be there (he's lovely) but I got the answer machine, so rather than Googling and finding out that I've got the creeping hangle wangle can one of you lovely ladies in the know tell me what you think?
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Hurdity

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Re: Damn Utrogestan
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2018, 05:15:43 PM »

Hi puddlesmum

Re your cycle - if you are still ovulating regularly then you will be producing your own progesterone (hopefully sufficient every cycle) so the addition of another 7 days worth will help keep the lining thin. Sounds like you are taking it at approx the right time for you? However in some women 3 pumps of gel on top of their own oestrogen is sufficient to suppress the cycle anyway so that you don't ovulate - and perhaps this might happen with you? I think it will depend on your absorption. I never understand the  prescription for taking prog on the first 7 days of a calendar month for peri-menopausal women for the reasons you give ie will throw out your own cycle - unless the oestrogen dose is sufficiently high to suppress it.

Thinking about it, I would actually start taking the utrogestan a little later because even though you will presumably be producing your own, the addition of the utrogestan and then withdrawal of it - may bring on an earlier bleed?  Working back from Day 1 (when you want to bleed) I would aim to stop the utrogestan say no more than 3 days before which would mean taking the utrogestan days 21-28 or 20-27. Difficult to say what will happen and you can only try - and perhpas try it your way to start with and then take it a bit later next cycle if it messes things up?!

Sorry I can't help with all the other meds - but I am sure they are all affecting you and maybe even interacting? I don't know how they work (the Mirt.. and the Serox...) but Utrogestan is a sedative and maybe the metabolites bind to similar receptors (out of my depth here?) - and if you are taking it orally there are more metabolic by-products. Taking those 3 products together (and estrogel) is bound to confuse your body a bit I would say|!

Good luck with your new regime anyway and let us know how it works out :)

Hurdity x
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puddlesmum

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Re: Damn Utrogestan
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2018, 05:25:30 PM »

Thanks Hurdity!

I've put Day 21-28 in the diary for next month to try that out.

I would love the Estrogel to stop me ovulating for as long as possible, then I might get a break from these mood swings. Horrible things.  This month is the first time I've taken the bull by the horns to try and get some sort of normality back into my life instead of waiting for a miracle to happen.

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Hurdity

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Re: Damn Utrogestan
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2018, 05:51:13 PM »

Oo-er - eek -don't blame me if it doesn't work out though - the body is a complex and individual thing - but I would be interested to know! If your cycle decided to become shorter for example - it would change things - but you wouldn't know because if the HRT! Hope you manage to sort out the mood swings ....

Hurdity x
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