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babyjane

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Kijimea for IBS
« on: August 25, 2017, 12:48:37 PM »

I am aware quite a few of us suffer with IBS.  Has anyone else heard or read about Kijimea IBS probiotic.  It seems too good to be true and is expensive.

Google it and see what your (gut) no pun intended, feeling is.
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Annie0710

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 01:18:45 PM »

Do you think (I'll describe below) mine is IBS? I've had IBS before but usually down in pelvic area

This is under left ribcage, it looks and feels like  a full bloated feeling and very uncomfortable
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babyjane

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 02:42:16 PM »

we can't diagnose Annie because we are not medically trained but in my own experience my IBS pain and discomfort tends to be centred around my colon (lower left hand side).  Having said that I can also suffer with nausea and heartburn alongside it.

Mine was diagnosed by a gastroenterologist after a colonoscopy.  If you are concerned your GP would be the one to talk to.
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CLKD

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 04:18:43 PM »

4 me IBS has been a problem since an early age and not diagnosed until 1991 when I couldn't eat - due to the muscle and I felt SO SICK!  Medication from the GP eased symptoms.  Then I found Actimel helpful for years.

Fortunately I've never had the 'runs' nor dreadful belly pains, but tend to have slow transit  >:( which makes me feel sluggish and bloated.  Then I get worried about 'going' in case I need a loo when out and about and from experience, there aren't many public ones these days!  Also with my meno brain I have to tick on the calendar to remind me ........ I kind of have a 'habit' but it can vary within routine.

I will go have a look-see BJ - if I can remember to GOOGLE  ;D
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Annie0710

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 04:30:25 PM »

I know BJ, just wondered if anyone else had it up by the left rib

I know when my IBS was diagnosed it was like a knife in me low down in pelvic region

I took 2 deflatine and although the bloating hasn't gone the pain has !
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CLKD

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2017, 04:38:27 PM »

Does Michael Mosley suggest this, I haven't his latest book to hand.
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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2017, 04:43:13 PM »

Hi Annie - if this is a new symptom then I reckon you should ask your GP. Left rib pain is sometimes associated with the pancreas so it's best to get it checked out as full blown pancreatitis is very nasty. IBS is usually to do more with the bowel in my experience.

Taz x
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Annie0710

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 04:53:25 PM »

I've had it a few times before so fontcthink it's anything nasty.  Apparently it's the worst bend in the intestines to get food moving

If it goes on another week I'll see gp

Thanks x
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Annie0710

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 06:02:32 PM »

Ah that makes me feel better .  I kind of thought it must include the lot but most episodes are the end part.  That seems ok it's just trying to get the food moving down there !
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CLKD

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 07:06:20 PM »

Gentle exercise can encourage my bowels but I don't go far from the house in case  ::)
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babyjane

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2017, 08:47:53 AM »

My original question was about this advertised product.  I take it no one else has come across it?

http://www.kijimea.co.uk/

If it was not so expensive I would try it.  I have not been to the toilet properly without help since June.  I am sure my IBS flare up is to do with the anxiety of our holiday and, recently, a large family event and a blip with my medication but it doesn't make it any easier to deal with.  Previously it had been stable for almost 2 years  :(
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CLKD

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2017, 03:35:46 PM »

Sorry BJ - we meandered a bit.

Give it a go?  If it works you may not need much anyway ? ......... my Mum takes Orbis  :-X which has figs in ....... I couldn't find much about the product you mention. 
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Ju Ju

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2017, 12:57:18 AM »

Also remember that some people have guts that have become unhealthy environments that kill off probiotics as I have found after spending copious amounts on good quality probiotics. No benefit at all. Now I am following a protocol with the help of a therapist to heal the gut which has really helped me feel better, until I fell off the wagon and ate a GF doughnut a couple of days ago. Not easy to follow a strict diet on holiday. Not feeling so good at the moment, so back on the wagon with renewed conviction! Improvements have been subtle, so this is a huge reminder that I have to keep on the straight and narrow and the courage to say no to people's kindness. GF foods can still have other rubbish in them.
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Wrensong

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2017, 07:32:11 AM »

Babyjane - sorry haven't tried the product you're asking about, but I have used other probiotics over the years & wonder whether any of these might help if you haven't tried them already.  If you need to get things moving, then Optibac Bifido & Fibre is said to be helpful, though personally it's not that useful for me. 

Nature's Best do one called Acidophilus Extra (in 2 strengths) which also has the BB12 strain supposed to be beneficial for slow transit.  I do find this effective in that respect but always had to take it for about 10 days before the effect kicked in properly.  A word of caution though - I could never handle the 10 billion strength, but these days don't even tolerate the lower 4 billion strength well - seems to make my immune system go into overdrive making me feel feverish, so reluctantly I've shelved it.  I also had the same problem with the probiotic VSL#3 which a NHS gastroenterologist prescribed for me.  This is a multi-strain, high-potency preparation that is supposed to be very helpful & has good reviews.  GPs can prescribe it, but it's not cheap.

I now take Optibac for Every Day which really helps me with feelings of inflammation & possibly also the IBS-C - I have gastritis & this probiotic seems to keep that under better control than prescription meds.  The gastritis returns within a few days if I stop the probiotic. 

There is a single strain probiotic from Quest called L Plantarum (Bodykind supply this mail order or online) that is supposed to be good for IBS-C & also for inflammation.  I have had some success with this in both respects & it used to be the only one I could tolerate without unacceptable side effects, so I took it daily for a few years.  I think it's very much a case of what suits one person doesn't suit another - which is why I've listed quite a few!

I also eat a high fibre diet, very little wheat & lots of live, natural yoghurt & keep fluid intake up, but as you'll know, in hypothyroidism, in spite of hormone levels within the ref range, IBS-C can still be a continual battle & again what suits one sufferer diet-wise will be all wrong for another.  I can't tolerate flax seed, magnesium or coconut oil these days, as all seem to rev the thyroid.

A very good friend, a Microbiology PhD who worked on the development of probiotics, introduced me to them more than 30 years ago, so I find the subject fascinating!   That said, whatever I take, I research it first, reading any scientific papers I can find, then reviews.
 I'm still always very vigilant as I feel it's sensible to be extra cautious with auto immune conditions like Hashimoto's as probiotics are thought to have an effect on the immune system & patients with one auto immune condition are thought more likely to develop others.  I think the field is very promising but that there's probably a lot more strain-specific research needed & that there may also be potential for harm.

I hope you manage to find something to help - the problem is a misery.  Would be very interested to know if you do.

Wx
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CLKD

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Re: Kijimea for IBS
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2017, 02:54:11 PM »

Fruit will do it too!  Maybe cut back on it Teresa and gradually increase - 4 me it's a couple of days after that fruit begins to have an effect  >:(  ::)
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