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DaisyB

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Loneliness
« on: July 24, 2017, 08:25:20 AM »

I received this in my inbox this morning - and I thought of how the meno journey is a lonely old road at times. No matter how many folk you are surrounded by.

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-impact-of-loneliness-on-health-how-to-build-intimacy?utm_term=pos-1&utm_source=mbg&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily1&utm_campaign=170723

DaisyB x
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Butterfly22

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 02:55:44 PM »

Ah I agree can be a very lonely time xxx
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Yorkshire Girl

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 07:33:52 PM »

Hello Daisy It certainly is, even f I hadn't moved away from all my friends (now mainly ex - long story!) None are menopausal so wouldn't understand what I'm going through - mine is surgical at 44. I struggle with loneliness every day, during the day it's horrible. Would love to have a friend to go out & have coffee or shop with but hey ho xx
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Butterfly22

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 08:26:39 PM »

I'm the same moved to the country six years ago but as I have ME I don't go out much but would be nice to have friends. I started at 25 so this forum has been the only place I talk about it. I'm 43 now though xx
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DaisyB

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2017, 12:13:19 AM »

ME is hard enough to manage never mind meno thrown into the mix :-\  good article I thought - worth read xx
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daisysareyellow

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2017, 02:57:34 AM »

I apologise for the length of this post. When I was a young girl I had a tricky personality. I struggled to make and maintain friendships and my family situation didn't help it much. My father was severely bi-polar and my mother had to jump through hoops to keep the family together. My brothers (who eventually went on to become doctors) were more able to cope with the family situation which was quite abusive at times, but I wasn't, so I had the dual problem of no friends and an abusive home life.

As an adult, I was able to view things a bit differently. The hatred I had for my mother turned into admiration for her amazing ability to cope with the crap hand she was dealt. My father was mentally ill and therefore not entirely responsible for his behaviour. He also had a brother who was retarded and a mother with a serious genetic illness, so dad's road wasn't easy either.

Anyway, I wasn't going to allow my life to be a cycle of misery. Mum and I are very close now and we all made our peace with dad who passed away last year. My own marriage is great and I was so proud when my son was confident enough in me to tell me he was gay. He is 23 now and he came out to me at 20. I consider him my closest friend.

As I got older and gained more and more insight, I became highly valued as a Nanny and childcare worker because all of my life experience was put to good use in other families. I made many friends with the parents of the children I cared for and was invited to many functions and events. When I think back to my own childhood and school days when I spent so much of my time alone and wishing I could have just one person to confide in, it makes me really sad.

I am 51 years old now. I have learned that even some of the worst people are not that way because they are bad. My father simply didn't know how to deal with full time work, crippling migraines and bi-polar disorder in a time when medications weren't that good. My mother lived in an era where you keep up appearances and don't tell anyone that there are problems in the home/marriage. When my father had a geriatric episode of bi-polar 10 years ago and had to be made an involuntary patient, my mother opened up to her friends and found nothing but love and support. This changed her whole way of dealing with issues and she was less lonely as a result. My mother had so many friends and yet she was lonely because she wasn't really sharing her problems. When my father passed away last year, you could not fit everyone in the church. My father had no friends due to his early behaviour and yet so many people turned up to support mum and the family.

I have experienced crippling loneliness in my life and I recognise it in people around me. It doesn't take much to ask how people are or offer to help people in small ways. Life is truly about the ripple effect.
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dahliagirl

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2017, 07:20:18 AM »

Thank you Daisiesareyellow.

I have children who are young adults, and it is not plain sailing holding things together at the moment.  It is hard when your life does not fit into society's expectations.  I recognise a lot of what you say about loneliness in your post.  It is very inspiring.

We learn so much by finding ways to overcome these difficulties.
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Butterfly22

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2017, 07:21:13 AM »

Ah thanks for sharing your story, just goes to show in the end people are around.
I think when your not well etc you maybe without knowing shut people out as easier then letting them down.
I'm glad you saw things different as you got older and turned them into positives xxx
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Butterfly22

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2017, 07:41:48 AM »

ME is hard enough to manage never mind meno thrown into the mix :-\  good article I thought - worth read xx

I no and depression thrown in happy days eh! Did you comment on my thread when I left Daisy? Do you have ME to xxx
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DaisyB

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2017, 08:14:48 AM »

Daisysareyellow - thank you for sharing your story. Sometimes it's very difficult to see things from the other persons perspective - but if we can do that our own thoughts/feelings/behaviours change- for the better.


Lila22 - think I may have posted something about ME. X


I thought the article was really good - it struck me that for a lot of us on here it's the only place we can open up without feeling like we are burdening someone. Meno is so complex - some of us are fortunate enough to have loving partners as natural supports -  but even that doesn't prevent us from feeling isolated.
Reading many of the posts here it is clear that most of us don't find a magic bullet and move on. The road is difficult and unpredictable and for me anyway I can sometimes be very open about what's happening to me and sometimes I feel I sound like a broken record so I say nothing. That's when it is easy to feel alone.
 :bighug: To all of you xx
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Butterfly22

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2017, 08:21:16 AM »

Sometimes it's just comforting to see your not alone, others do actually feel the same to.
How do you cope with your ME Daisy xx
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DaisyB

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2017, 08:33:36 AM »

Very difficult year lila22 - meno seemed to bring back full relapse. I struggled to cover up most of it especially at work - fatigue/exhaustion - brain fog and muscle spasms were as bad as when I was first diagnosed - on mild to severe scale I sat at moderate.
Only thing that has got me back on track is rest rest and more rest. As well as getting HRT sorted ( for now anyway) Starting to feel like I'm getting back on track but I'm still sleeping 12/13 hours a night with afternoon naps thrown in!
My goal today is to plan a return to regular physical activity over next 3 weeks.  ;)
My employer is very supportive so I've no qualms about returning and having plenty of time to adjust to a working day again. Not everyone is as fortunate as that though  :'(

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Butterfly22

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2017, 08:37:02 AM »

Ah must be very hard holding down a job with it, unfortunately I'm not able to work ATM but hopefully will get there one day.
Can I ask which HRT you are on.? It's difficult finding one as you no ME causes chemical sensitivity so it's just a nightmare xx
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DaisyB

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 10:14:50 AM »

I had Mirena fitted in April - reacted badly within three days - started on estrogel patch but wasn't enough - on advice from girls in MM switched to sandrena. One sachet a day. Realised after some discussion on here I should have been on higher dose - once I increased symptoms all started to ease off. So 2 sachets 1 morning and 1 at bedtime. I'll probably review this if it stays settled at end of year. Think I'd like to move to bio progesterone- but goal at minute is to get all symptoms settled for a good 6 months before I start tweaking! Hope that helps I also started working remotely with claire Snowdon Darling and am taking a number if supplements as well as watching diet ::) 
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Butterfly22

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Re: Loneliness
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 11:01:44 AM »

Yer a bit of stability is good before you dive in there again, that's what I'm doing xx
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