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CLKD

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2017, 03:28:12 PM »

GIRLS! can we remember that we should be referring to Professionals with their correct titles for which they have worked very hard! i.e. ??  Professor Studd ??  ....... it is VERY disrespectful  :bang:  to not address people correctly.  Would you go into Professor Studd's Office and say "Hey Studd, I want ..... " ? >:(

Would you feel it OK to call you by your last name?  I know it's done in Public Schools however  :-X.  Dr Currie is Dr Currie
surely  :-\

This is a Forum on which to share experiences.  The written word is static.  Maybe state your point/s then back off to allow others to digest what has been suggested?
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Hurdity

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2017, 06:47:22 PM »

CLKD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are more important issues raised on this thread than how someone is addressed!!!! After all this is a chat forum - not a newspaper, academic paper, web page etc so however we refer to people is often shorthand and not how we would address them in real life!!

Also to clarify, in the academic/scientific world ie published papers or scientific articles - it is NORMAL to use the authors' surnames. In the case of Studd/Prof Studd/John Studd/Mr Studd - he has/had a variety of roles so could have a different title according to the context. As a member of a research/teaching establishment he held the rank of professor (and I believe that once held even when retired or doing a different job this title can be used for life - correct me if I'm wrong someone?), as a consultant - if a surgeon ( I think) he would be known as Mr - although as he did both perhaps he was always referred to as Prof? Whatever - if you were writing about his research - and he has published numerous papers he would be referred to as Studd as in - Studd's research showed x or y... etc. This is the correct usage. It would actually be improper to use someone's first name or maybe even their title - as this is irrelevant to the research paper. As an aside his website is studd.co.uk - a domain name he will have chosen himself - leading naturally to referring to it as Studd's website.

It is not disrespectful at all and as I said we are a chat forum.

The same goes for Heather Currie - if we were referring to one of her research papers: "Stopping hormone replacement therapy: were women ill advised? Cumming GP, Currie HD, Panay N, Moncur R, Lee AJ." we could correctly refer to Currie's research.

The issues at stake here being discussed are more important at this juncture I feel -  but had to put the record straight!!!!!!

Hurdity x
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Mbrown001

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2017, 07:21:03 PM »

Oh for heavens sake.

Can we just not be nice for a change.


What would a browsing newbie think.....not exactly encouraging I think.

After all Dr Currie wants to encourage new members.

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Hurdity

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2017, 07:43:47 PM »

Quite!!!! My sentiments entirely!!!
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Mbrown001

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2017, 07:55:36 PM »

Being off the forum for a long while has taught me to think before I post.

One upmanship and point scoring against other members is unnecessary and totally pointless.

I would suggest to read before you click and as my old dad would have said.

If you don't have anything nice to say, then say nothing at all.

We all need to remember that.

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Hurdity

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2017, 08:00:08 PM »

 :-\
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Mbrown001

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2017, 08:03:27 PM »

That was a general statement and not targeted at any member in any way.


When you read and can't post it teaches you to be a lot more careful when you return.

The forum should be informative, supportive and friendly so in that theme.


 :hug:

To all  :)
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babyjane

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2017, 08:15:12 PM »



The forum should be informative, supportive and friendly so in that theme.


 :hug:

To all  :)

I find on the whole that it is, but occasionally, as in real life, feelings spill over and we all like to be right and have the last word.  How that is done is not always in the best tone and, with the unforgiving typed word, things can sometimes be misunderstood and the tone read wrongly.

What saddens me is when a misunderstanding is not addressed in a civil manner and insults start being thrown.  that's not what we are supposed to be about  :(
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Dolly

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2017, 08:25:07 PM »

Blimey..... you are a feisty lot...and I thank you all for your advice......you haven't scared me off just yet  ;)
If I could just steer this back a bit if that's OK?

So I suppose I could just carry on with the gel daily (although I didn't apply it today as was soo fed up with medical response) then use the prescribed 200mg Utragestan for 12 days down below then I am not really veering from the prescription am I?.....if I do this do I use a calendar month or 28 days...honestly they tell you 'nowt' about what cycle to use! And email Dr Curry.
Otherwise just stop and look around for a more flexible consultant then start again.....it's medical insurance through work and a bit limited so am not even sure they would allow me to change consultants now.
Think I need to think some more tonight.   :-\
Dolly x
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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2017, 10:18:52 PM »

Hurdity - you fell right in then!  Did you really need to go on and on about 'the academic and scientific world' like we are all stupid?  Which record exactly?

I have typed more Scientific Papers than have eaten hot dinners!  I have also worked within the Scientific Community as well as for Professors and Noted Surgeons and one would never think of addressing them either personally or in a Forum by their surname.  They have earned or been awarded their title.

If I didn't think drawing attention to someone's correct title, then I would *NOT* have bothered to mention it.

Himself thinks that people on here are disrepectful by calling people by their surnames.  I don't often discuss with him what this Forum is about, however ...........

Some people have simply too much time on their hands >yawn<

Carry on, as you were  ;)
« Last Edit: July 01, 2017, 10:24:49 PM by CLKD »
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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2017, 08:39:00 AM »

CLKD - I really don't care two hoots about how scientists, gynaecologists etc are referred to on this forum - but you were the one that brought it up and seemed to be bothered by it! I wouldn't ever think to mention it otherwise! I just responded to say it was OK to do so (refer by surnames on occasion) - no-one said or implied anyone was stupid but you most emphatically pointed out that it was disrespectful which most of us think it isn't, and certainly isn't when referring to scientific research! That is not "going on and on" - just answering your post - which incidentally diverted away from Dolly's queries about HRT which I was trying to get back to!!

Shall we call it a day on this one as we clearly disagree!?

Hurdity x
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Hurdity

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2017, 08:40:03 AM »

Dolly! Glad you haven't been put off by various things on your thread!!!

Yes do just carry on using it as prescribed. Did you say it was 3 pumps? That is a higher than average dose - but depends how well you absorb it. Exactly - using the utrogestan vaginally will not really be deviating from your prescription - it is the dose and duration that matter. Some women do calendar month and others do 4 weekly - it won't make that much difference. I find it better to ease into the utrogestan by starting with a 100 mg dose so you could do 10 or 11 x 200 mg and a day either side of 100 mg. My worst side effects are fatigue and generally thick head ( this morning I am first morning after 200 mg and I could hardly wake up and still feel a bit groggy - but that's no big deal - I can cope!).  You can think again if you suffer serious side effects but don't look for problems - you may well be fine!

Good luck and let us know how you get on :)

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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2017, 01:53:32 PM »

From where I am sitting Hurdity, it is obvious that you didn't read my post thoroughly, my point which you appear to have missed completely!

: which was that people here are being disrespectful .....

Come in Dolly - my time is up!
« Last Edit: July 02, 2017, 05:16:03 PM by CLKD »
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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2017, 02:00:17 PM »

This thread appears to be stuck in a loop, or a time warp, unrelated to Dolly's original post.

As a newby I consider she deserves an apology from those members who have turned her thread into a battle ground and that you conduct your squabbles elsewhere.
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Re: Advice about Estrogel/Utrogestan Please
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2017, 05:56:11 PM »

Dear Dolly- I'm very sorry that this has happened. Feelings run high at times, especially when it comes to treatment regimes. Hurdity described it well in her earlier post- don't be put off. You just do what's right for you and I wish you well.

M x
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