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Author Topic: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil  (Read 175049 times)

Annie0710

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #285 on: January 26, 2017, 11:51:24 PM »

Aw Suzanne THANKYOU !

You are so damn inspirational !
I don't even care about my non existent libido , the thing I want back in my life is confidence, well being and being able to socialise again

I coped with my fast paced, quick thinking job tasks this week at work but at home I'm still putting on a load of washing then either my son or OH go to wear something then I realise I never emptied washing machine ! I've felt really bad, OH had to wear same work shirt for 3 DAYS and his warm golf jumper and trousers were soaked

I'm just worried about my hair :-(

What is mindfulness ? I hear it a lot on here

I'm having trouble getting to sleep at night too, am averaging about 2am

Keep posting Suzanne, I really look forward to hearing about your changes xxx
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Suzanne1967

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« Reply #286 on: January 27, 2017, 12:07:57 AM »

Annie I'm still 😳😳 wide awake 🙄

Mindfulness .. I use an APP called CALM it's brilliant

Self esteem
Self worth
Self love
Reducing anxiety
Deep sleep release

All sorts ! I was soooooo sceptical but it REALLY HELPS!   You can Do 5--30 mins you pick your time on it

Honestly just give it a try ! You can do it in the car on your work break laid on the bed sat in a chair ... anywhere ! I've had it in wandering round M&S 😂😂

Re washing ohhh don't worry about it ! They'll get over it 😉

I blamed the kids for losing house phone 3 days later found it in the fridge 😳😂🙄

Then in one day lost my purse ! Flooded the kitchen sink ( left tap running 🙄And actually forgot how to get to my sons school as road works and couldn't quite work it out 😂😂

Honestly I could write a book !

Im coping so much better but I too had loads support on here off Hurdity Dancing girl sooze and many more 😉 They kept me going ..

So we must all keep each other going

I'd gone from fast paced multifunctional multitasking superwoman to little miss jelly !


Ps why you worried about your hair if you don't mind me asking x

Pps .. my libidos not decided to come back yet but sure it will but I'm not bothered XX
I'm very descriptive I know 😉 But hopefully its  making you smile 😉

Keep going 😉😘🙋🏄‍♀️🏄‍♀️
« Last Edit: January 27, 2017, 12:11:37 AM by Suzanne1967 »
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Annie0710

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #287 on: January 27, 2017, 12:19:50 AM »

No i love your updates

Ok so I did try an app but it wanted you to pay- does yours ?

My hair, since turning Post meno my hair really started thinning/shedding bad.  Started Apr 2015 but really noticeable to me July 2015 and still doing it, I know there's a high chance Tibolone will make it worse but I'm desperate for a balance of hormones, just chucking oestrogen at myself wasn't doing me any good, my developed social anxiety is really affecting me xxxx
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Suzanne1967

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« Reply #288 on: January 27, 2017, 12:28:45 AM »

Messaged  you Annie x 💗😉 I think 😂😂
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Annie0710

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #289 on: January 27, 2017, 12:41:40 AM »

Replied ! Xx
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warwick01

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #290 on: January 27, 2017, 08:44:59 AM »

Great to hear from you Suzanne.

Day 36 end of week 5

You are so right in what you say. Sleeping is an issue for me too, I get off about 2/3 and wake around 7sh (which is later than usual) still having some headaches as well joint aches but nothing as bad as the first few weeks.

I'm waiting and hoping after 8 weeks 2 cycles things will settle.

Tempest/Annie hope your enjoying some better days and thank you both for the encouragement.

Will pop in again later ;) Wxx
 
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Annie0710

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #291 on: January 27, 2017, 09:31:52 AM »

Hi girls

Yes sleep is ny issue which has surprised me because of the prog part of it

I drop off about 2am and usually awake @6 because of commitments etc

Got hangover head this morning but OH left me to sleep til 8.30 (Fridays is my free day)

Got 1 or 2 tablets left of first pack, I've missed a day this week, can't for the life of me think how it happened but shows I'm still ditsy

Not really noticing any positives but like I say no obvious negatives so I'll count my lucky stars

Little message to social anxiety: you've robbed me today of going to a funeral to support to my OH, you damn bugger just do one !

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Suzanne1967

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #292 on: January 27, 2017, 11:23:16 AM »

Hello ladies 💗😉😘

I forgot to take my tibilone on Wednesday 😩 So took it as normal last night at 7 .... 🤔😖😖... couldn't sleep and woke at 7 banging headache spaced out 🙄 Feeling like I did weeks ago

Note to self ... don't forget to take ! 😂

I'm ok now coming round a little but it's 11-20 but feel like drank 3 bottles of wine and I don't drink anymore after 2 glasses of champagne at Xmas 🙄 And being  plastered 😳

So just a little update to say the morale of the story is ....

Don't forget to take your tibilone as it's knocked me back today .. 😖😉

But onwards and upwards 🏄‍♀️🏄‍♀️🏄‍♀️I could easily lock myself away today but can't and not going to let it beat me 😉😘

Keep going xxxx
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Tempest

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #293 on: January 27, 2017, 11:25:15 AM »

Morning ladies! (And thank you so much Suzanne for your amazing encouragement)!

Day 14 today - let's see how it goes.......Jitteriness/Anxiety upon waking up til about 10 am pretty uncomfortable but this is nothing new, Tibolone or not! No jelly legs or weirdness after taking tablet - which is good! I'll report in later to let you know how the day pans out (also freezing here - minus 6)! Sleep last night was from 12.30 to 6.00 so not too bad.

Just a wee note, Annie - did you see what Coldethyl posted the other day about the 'anxiety switch' getting flipped? It's absolutely true! It's a 'learned response,' most likely picked up during  perimenopause. This is where mindfulness comes in (something that I have to work very hard at, and don't always succeed)!  :o

There really is only one way to 'beat' anxiety, and that is to challenge it. I've been working through this with my Psychiatrist in relation to my CPTSD. Mine was triggered pre menopause due to an extreme traumatic event, and I get the full gamut - flashbacks, depersonalisation, breaks with reality, etc. etc. Add in perimenopause/menopause and shifting hormones when starting/changing HRT, and it becomes quite the mix!

In relation to your social anxiety (and mine - I have to work constantly on this) the way to 'treat' this is to allow the feelings to be there, and don't give them any importance. Anxiety isn't a 'thing', it's a learned response and the more you challenge it by not giving in, the less it gets. 'Endure the moment' is the motto, really! A guy called Paul David has written a great book about this and has a blog - you can check it out. Now that the (hopefully) crazy dizziness and recorded low blood pressure is settling for me, I'll be working on challenging my anxiety once more but I have to say it's been hard the last few weeks with the challenge of changing over HRT from the gel and the unexpected intensity of the initial side effects of the Tibolone.

High anxiety also messes with your cognitive function, and can promote episodes of forgetfulness as your mind is 'multi tasking' in a state of high alert constantly, and becomes tired and confused.

I'm passing all this on, but of course I easily become a dribbling wreck as you've seen and it can all go out of the window for me too! However, in more lucid moments when the panic has passed, I realise the only way to have a life is to get back on track and keep working at challenging those negative beliefs. It REALLY does work - by a know process called neuroplasticity which means that the brain actually 'rewires' it's response to perceived stress and anxiety over time.

I plan to talk more about coping with menopause with mental health issues and my progress (hopefully - including all the ups and downs) over in the private lives section of the forum once I feel a little more 'stable', in the hope that this might help any other ladies. I think menopause 'triggers' pre existing mild to moderate issues such as anxiety, OCD and depression to become much more magnified, and certainly in my case I am now trying to be mindful that I need to treat the 'whole'.

Hope this wasn't too deep/preachy and as you know, I 'fall off the wagon' constantly - it really is a complex process for me but I just wanted to share in case it helps (and so you all know why I struggle probably a bit more than others).

Hugs, and I hope you all have a good day! I'll check in again a bit later...... :) xxxxx



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Tempest

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Re: Tibilone 2.5 and testosterone and Pv Estroil
« Reply #294 on: January 27, 2017, 11:27:32 AM »

Oh no, Suzanne!  :'(

I hope you get 'back on track' soon.

I set the alarm on my phone for medication - maybe do this so you never forget again?

Hugs!!! xxxx
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Annie0710

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« Reply #295 on: January 27, 2017, 11:45:47 AM »

Thats really interesting Tempest, thank you !

I will look at this CALM app again ok promise

I felt hungover this morning but 2 painkillers have sorted that

Does anyone know about lupus ? Promise I'm not being health anxious but I've noticed very occasionally I wake with a mild rash across my cheeks and nose.  It really is mild but I notice it straight away, I don't think it's there all day (I normally wear bb cream ) , just throwing this thought out there as my dry mouth has recently increased, white dead index finger takes longer to come back to life after being out in the cold (again this doesn't happen every time I'm out) the seborrheic dermititis/ hairloss the derm said I have.  Double vision.  Night dry eye. 

Just sort of thinking aloud but reluctant to ask gp as I like to keep a low profile every few months so they don't think I'm crazy lol xx
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Tempest

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« Reply #296 on: January 27, 2017, 09:45:32 PM »

So how has everyone's day been? Today has been dominated by fatigue and changeable mood. This afternoon I really crashed energy wise, and had a few weepy spells late afternoon - not crashing depression, just more melancholy than anything.

I hope you managed to get back on track again today as the day progressed, Suzanne.

Onwards with the rollercoaster..........
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CBA

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« Reply #297 on: January 27, 2017, 09:51:55 PM »

Hi all

Just to add to the Tibolone discussion. I've been taking it for 3 weeks tomorrow. I am hesitant because I've had positive starts to HRT before only to feel worse after time. But this does feel different. In just 3 weeks here is my list:

Weight loss - no bloating anymore
Massively increased confidence
Massively decreased anxiety
Much much better mood
Humour is back - I can laugh and joke again
I can teach with confidence and humour again
I'm not dragging myself out of bed anymore
Surges of energy
Walking faster
Concentration much better
I remember people's names again
No weird digestive problems
No more hot flushes
Only one night sweat a night
Stamina for the day much much better
CAN be arsed lol!
Feel younger
Hair loss decreasing
Joint pains going - sore knees gone
Sleep okay - vivid dreams - but still better than when on no hrt

Libido no better - taking vagifem also. Not worrying about libido though (although my partner is. I think that's his biggest concern...sigh)

Having mild road rage (roid rage?) but that's me being me again.
Sparkyness back
Memory much better - retaining stuff
I can find my words again and am more articulate
No longer socially phobic
Went shopping for clothes and even bought stuff
Can make decisions again

Downside - craving sweet things. New to me. So maybe the weight loss won't last long lol!

As I said it's only been 3 weeks so...but this is remarkable, really.

I'd reached a point where I was having serious suicidal thoughts. It was that bad. I have pretty awful VA and they found that I also had atrophic endometrium. But it was the lack of functioning and body pain that floored me the most I think.

My advice is give it a go if you want and you're post meno. There's nothing to lose. If it doesn't work you can stop and try something else if you can.

Will update if there are any changes. Take mine at 8pm by the way. I'm ready to sleep at 10pm and up and about at 6. Mornings getting much better!

Love and hugs to all

Jx
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Tempest

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« Reply #298 on: January 27, 2017, 10:10:15 PM »

Hi, CBA!

Well, what wonderful and encouraging news! Yayyy! I am so very glad indeed that it's working so wonderfully for you - this inspires me at least to keep persevering!  ;)

I've been thinking I should have taken it in the evening too - I'm pretty scared to change it right now as not sure how to make the switch comfortably so early in the 'game'.

Do keep us posted won't you? We're very hungry for success stories! xxxx
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CBA

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« Reply #299 on: January 27, 2017, 10:26:07 PM »

Hi Tempest

I took my first tablet in the morning and it just made me feel really spaced out, weird, dizzy etc. So the next day I waited and took it in the evening. Still had the same effect but I slept it off. I'm not getting that so bad now but it seems to help me if I take it later rather than earlier in the day.

I guess you could give it a go but 'plan' for a possible bumpy couple of days? You know, set yourself up for some telly/sofa and chocolate time. No commitments or chores. Bubble baths. Nice things. Give yourself permission to take time out to concentrate on you.

I don't think we are very good at that us women. We do guilt and responsibility much more readily!

Big hug Tempest! Do what you feel is right for you. Keeping fingers crossed for you

Jx
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