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[Pam Madra]

Tinkerbell how are youwithzoely . I have been taking tibilone this month but cannot speak highly if it. I have two melt downs this week. Really looking for answers also with periods this week things have gone pear shape for me. Maybe I will have try out Zoley. Thanks

[Tinkerbellj]

Had to stop zoely. hot flushes back with a vengeance and running to the loo ebery five minutes.  ALso terrible cramps just like patches and previous tablet hrt. back to the drawing board. mood still terrible

[jasper]

Tinkerbellj - I had the hot flush problem too - noticeably worse than when on evorel patch :-( Sorry to hear it didn't work for you

[Pam Madra]

sorry to hear about it tinkerbellj and jasper. What are you two doing now in terms of hrt. I feel equally lost as well. Not knowing what to do as well. I had great hopes that hrt will help but no good so far.

[Hurdity]

Sorry to hear about the side effects from Zoely - but do remember that any treatment is going to take a while to settle and for your body to acclimatise - most - even bio-identical oestrogen preparations - will cause some side effects and bodily changes. However I know that some women cannot tolerate any tablet HRT due to stomach problems - and I'm not sure whether these settle - I've never taken oral HRT and took the pill 40 years ago for about a year, so can't comment!

However you should be able to find some form/dose of transdermal HRT that does help, hopefully?

Hurdity x

[Tinkerbellj]

Back to the oestrogen gel. and them seven days of 20mg utgestrogen vaginally everyonth. although haven't needed the progesterone the last dew months as period came on its own without it!!

[Pam Madra]

how are you feeling with oestrogen gel ? did you take it because of fatigue or anxiety issues. Please share to look at various options.

[Tinkerbellj]

Been on the gel a year on max dose for 6 months. takes away flushes and constantly running to the loo but does nothing for anxiety fatigue or severe joint and mussle pain. I feel pregnant all the time which is impossible cuz I have zero libido! !

[Pam Madra]

Thanks for sharing information. I hope you can try some alternate hrt to help out with anxiet and joint pain. I guess you are peri at the moment. Sorry I'm not of much help.

[Tinkerbellj]

No u did help. just having someone to talk to is always a help. I have meno clinic appt next week. Not holding out hope beem at this two years and 6 different hrt and still. Can't shift this low.mood cranky horrible  person who has invadedy whole life :-(

[Pam Madra]

same here. struggling for years through peri. tried yasmin, AD, mirena and tibilone. please keep posted of what is next for you as I will also see gynae next week aswell.

[Pam Madra]

jasper how has zoely gone for you. Please share it.

[jasper]

Zoely didn't work for me I'm afraid Pam - I was told to give it 3 months but had to give up after 2 as I had constant upper body muscle pain and neck/head pain for 6 weeks.

I'm now back on 50 Evorel but have now had 3 really heavy periods (since stopping the Zoely) so I really don't know what to do. Wondering if I should try coming off it completely to see if it is actually helping me or not (its been nearly a year) but worried I will have a really bad crash (fatigue and pain due to my chronic lyme).  Otherwise not sure if there is any benefit in trying to get hold of utrogestan and taking it regularly to try to offset possible balance problem and too much estrogen (causing heavy bleeding)? I don't see any benefit in taking utrogestan every month/couple of months  to induce bleed as I already have a regular (and now heavy) period on the Evorel. Is there any point in trying it daily? 

thanks everyone....

[Tinkerbellj]

Jasper I am sure we were separated at birth off to work now but will post later didnt want to read and run xxx

[jasper]

Hideous migraine back again reliably on time day 4-5 as my period ends. The rest of the month I seem to be able to withstand fluctuations +evorel but at this point I can't. When I look at hormone charts all I can see is that there is a rise in estrogen at this point? This will last 4 or more days .....evorel meaning too much ? I am fairly ok during period and actually feel at best shortly before!