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[Menomale]

 

[CLKD]

You post away, all experiences are to be shared as it can reassure others!

Boring - nope ….. well, not yet anyway 

[babyjane]

I know nothing about HRT but just wishing you all the best 

[Tempest]

I'd love to read your HRT diary, Menomale! Wishing you all the very best on your journey.

[Janice68]

Good luck on your journey with Hrt Menomale!!

[CLKD]

You may find if you use the search button on here for each product, responses from others.

[Tempest]

Oh no! Tell me Menomale, do you know if Estrogel is available in your country? It seems to be well tolerated by most ladies skin wise. I am EXTREMELY allergy prone to multiple medications (anaphylaxis), and I didn't have any problems whatsoever with it skin wise. It has a very well tolerated base, and contains 17b Estradiol. If you find your compounded formula a problem, it may well be worth researching to see if Estrogel would be available to you.

[Tempest]

Yes, maybe rubbing it more gently would be better. The application technique for Estrogel is to rub the gel fairly gently  until the gel is not tacky, but still damp. Also application site size is important. With Estrogel per pump it's two hands width. I don't know if this is comparable with your product, but it might give you some guidance.

Hope this helps! How are you feeling so far, apart from the itching?

[Hurdity]

Hi Menomale

Not sure if I've ever welcomed you? There have been so many new members (including some that have joined and left in my absence!) and I've been so busy recently and hardly manage to look at many threads!  If not then  from me!

Anyway really to say I am concerned about your HRT combo. I presume this is from a private practitioner and not on NHS? This is not an approved formulation. Sorry just seen you are in Brazil - is there an NHS there? The thing is compounded products are not licensed/recommended here nor in America ( probably not in Aus either) - mainly due to inconsistencies in standards and formulation.

Most importantly progesterone creams, especially that low a dose (50 mg) - are most certainly not licensed or recommended for endometrial protection so I would urge you to use a different product to protect your uterus. Is there something similar to utrogestan or other bioidentical progesterone available in a capsule rather than a cream.

Also the oestrogen you are using - is this a cream too? - you may well get variable absoprtion, and again better to use one of the proprietary brands of gel if you want to use something that pumps or squirts. There is no need to rub it in if it's a gel (although I'm sure it doesn't actually matter if you do - may well change the absorption from the standard dose?) - it just needs to be spread on the area and left to dry as Tempest says - I haven't used estrogen gel but I do use Testosterone gel.

Re time of day - the women who use gel will surely answer this - but certainly skin to skin contact should be avoided for at least one hour following application with gel, to avoid transfer to partner, children or pets - so depends on your lifestyle.

I hope when you get settled on the right combo that you feel better - as most of us on HRT do eventually

Hurdity x

[Tempest]

Just to vouch, Menomale - Hurdity is extremely knowledgeable and is one of our most treasured members. You can trust that she gives sound, thoughtful advice. She has helped so many members here! 

[Tempest]

Just stopping by to ask how you're doing today? I know you said the heat is intense, Menomale! I have a dear younger friend Betina who is in Brazil. I think sometimes she envies our very cold Scottish weather when it gets too hot. Do you have good air conditioning?

Give it another couple of months and I can always send you some of our snow!

[Tempest]

Oh my goodness, you poor soul! And flu too? That's probably why you have the constant feeling of heat too (apart from what Mother Nature is throwing at you)! I know simple paracetamol helps to bring a temperature down as well of course helping with flu related aches and pains. It's not a miracle, but it helps!

I wish I had an instant cure for the anxiety side of things in menopause! Its a HUGE complaint from many ladies here (me included). I know mindfulness techniques help a bit to reframe the anxious feelings, but since it is definitely hormonal the answer obviously lies in that elusive 'balance of hormones ' that were all trying to achieve from our HRT.

I hope your GP picks up your message soon! I think you'll be fine to continue until you hear from her and it makes perfect sense not to put your body through any more adjustments by stopping right now whilst you're unwell too.

Rule number one right now is 'be kind to yourself '. If you can take some time out from your daily tasks and treat yourself to something nice (and cooling!), it will definitely help. I think now may be a very good time to give in and treat yourself to a large tub of luxury ice cream or sorbet (and no sharing! It's just for you). xxx

[Tempest]

Sounds good to me! As long as you are being good to yourself, that's  all that matters. I think we forget to do this so often, and it's what we certainly need more of during this tough time of our lives.

Take care. xxx

[Hurdity]

Hi Menomale - do let us know what your GP says about the progesterone. Also I'm not sure you have said what oestrogen you are using - is it like the standard gel and what dose is it?

Here is what it says on this site about bio-identicals from compounding pharmacies:

"BIO-IDENTICALS Bio-identical hormones are marketed as being naturally produced hormones which aim to resemble our own hormones and which replace the hormones according to individual requirements. They are in fact very similar to the hormones used in Hormone Replacement Therapy, which are also produced from natural sources, but, unlike HRT hormones, are given in uncontrolled, unregulated amounts, with little evidence available on effect and safety. Measurment of salivary hormone levels is often used to determine the amounts of bio-identicals which are prescribed, but salivary hormone levels bear no correlation with hormone levels which are required to treat menopausal symptoms, or to provide beneficial effects on bone or the cardiovascular system. For more information, see this article on bio-identicals from our magazine."

http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/otherpreps.php

The article mentioned is here:
http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/article-bioidentical-hormones.php

You will find similar views from all the national and international menopause societies British, North American, International - so do google these to see what they say if it might help you find out more about these products.

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

Could be that cortisol is rising at that time which can cause anxiety to waken a person.