Thanks all. I am a dog walker by trade so get plenty of walking done every day, yoga, swimming and badminton. Not much for gym/weights type stuff. I found the two different HRT's I tried (femoston and elleste duet 1 and 2mg) combined with the cerelle mini pill made me feel worse than any of the actual menopausal symptoms did, anxiety through the roof, constant weeping over everything and nothing, irritable, mood swings from one minute to the next, feeling like I could actually harm myself if I didn't punch something - I literally am exhausted by it. And it's taking a toll on my relationship which adds insult to injury. I don't suffer from hot flushes or insomnia thankfully. It's the loneliness of it I find hard to deal with, even though I know millions of women are going through it every day I still feel like I'm on my own, and the docs aren't helping by messing me around. From what you've said I will have to go down the mirena coil/hrt gel route as I don't appear to have many other options. I am interested in other cultures who seem to not suffer from menopausal symptoms, the japanese for example apparently don't have a word for it! Something to do with vast amounts of soya/tofu and the like. I guess this, like supplements, would help but not eradicate, because of my age. Thanks again guys and I will do some further reading around here.