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[Taz2]

I've had two SSRI's before and both of them led to me suddenly becoming really dizzy and then vomiting with diarrhoea within three hours of taking it. Horrible feeling but at least I was at home. It wasn't like being sick with a bug - no stomach pain at all. I suppose it was from the brain - more like seasickness!

Taz x

[Justjules]

No Taz, didn't find out as haven't been back yet.

I've never had the nausea or the runs from Citalopram. We are all different I suppose.

CKLD, I'll try the dextrose. I usually have rescue remedy next to the bed ready.

[CLKD]

Taz that's awful 

Ginger biscuits or Digestive can help too ……… mixed dried nuts/fruit …… anything to 'stay' the stomach!

[dolly64]

HI justjules,when I was researching coming off propranolol weeks ago,listed as a withdraweral symptom is anxiety,on some sites I visited I could see that even though some people who stopped taking them had no problems,others where experiencing withdrawal problems,jitters and palpitations amongst them,some for weeks after stopping.i guess it all depends on our genetic makeup and our fragile systems.the body slowly gets back into its normal rythme.
I have only managed to reduce 10mg,still take 20mg a day,been this dose for a month and I still get symptoms where my body is missing that extra 10mg at times,when stressed,after exercise ect.
The body is used to having the affects of adrenalin and cortisol blocked and must get used to dealing with it again.
I so much want to get right off my propranolol,but I can see it take me a while yet.
Hope your anxiety gradually improves for you,i do tapping with brad yates,and I do think it has helped me,also I purchased Calm Confident program from Georgia foster after I see about it in a magazine,that I think made a big difference to me,i listen to a part of it everyday,last week I went to a local tearoom 3 times by myself for a latte and cake,never done that before ever,so will continue with it.Has anybody else heard of her?.
dolly64.

[Justjules]

Dolly, you might be right. I was on sotalol but only a very small dose but had them for the last 20 years!! I have been going to a coffee shop on my own while I've been signed off sick and had some 'me' time and it was lovely but sadly back to work fully next week  will have a look at the Gorgia Foster thing. Not heard about her before. X

[CLKD]

Nope.

[CLKD]

Anxiety is a 'normal' survival reaction to stress : fight or flight response.  Knowing that has never helped me though 

[Dyan]

I'm going through an 'episode'(as I like to call them) at the moment.
I have just finished reading "At Last a Life" by Paul David.
Felt really bad Monday so went to bed early with this book and read a couple of chapters.
I was dreading going to work the next day but after reading I began to feel a little better.
In the morning I went to work,had moments but remembered what I had read the night before.
It is the story of The author who had anxiety for 10years and how he got himself better.
He also has a website: www.anxietynomore.co.uk where you can buy the book but Amazon have it too.
I have ordered his 2nd book " A Life at Last and Beyond"

Reading his story has certainly made me more positive about things.

[Justjules]

I read that book Dyan quite a while ago.....think I need to read it again as heard a lot about it lately.

Sorry to hear you are having a bad spell. Wish there was a magic wand for this darn thing!

[bramble]

A*azon have this one free today - the kindle version :

Dare: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast (+Bonus Audios)  Kindle Edition 
by Barry McDonagh

Halfway through it already - a good read - similar to the Claire Weekes method.

Bramble

[Justjules]

Thanks Bramble, will have a look at that. 

[Mandz]

Just joules I'll be holding your hand through cyberspace

You are stronger than you think, take it a day at a time!

I've went back to work with a more positive attitude.... Think in my head every time I'm bit anxious, three things I'm grateful for, can be as little as" I'm grateful my shoes are comfy, and I seem to get through

Btw I had helluva runs with any anti-ds I start xx

I'll be thinking of you xxxx

[Justjules]

Thanks Mandz! I'll be deep breathing all the way and then trying mindfulness all day. Just hope it's busy otherwise going to be a long day.....xxx

[dangermouse]

I think its also important to understand that some of your anxiety is physical rather than psychological. Particularly the 5am adrenaline rushes which are mainly out of our psychological control as they are biochemical from, the consensus seems to be, oestrogen surges. You may also find the anxiety rises late afternoon and then you feel better by the evening, this all ties in with our natural Circadian rhythms - see the chart here https://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleep_files/images/c/c9/Circadian.gif. I had to go on the pill to stop mine, although they are still apparent at certain times in my cycle (when oestrogen is higher) around 4/5pm when adrenaline naturally peaks. Beta blockers also worked well for me as they dampen adrenaline and cortisol, where Diazepam just sedated me and then made me feel jittery as it wore off.

You can, of course, make the physical attacks much worse by panicking and over-worrying, so any psych. tools will help enormously to rationalise your situation. However, the physical aspect is very different to true psychological panic attacks which can be 100% controlled by our thought processes, so don't feel you are doing something wrong if you still feel physically overwhelmed. Of course, understanding its our hormones may not stop them, but it does stop them spiralling out of control!

Also, as the body is being over stimulated, certain meds can make these feelings of anxiety worse, particularly anti-nausea drugs (cruel when nausea is attached as was for me!), digestive enzymes, inhaling chemicals in the home like bleach, decongestants, caffeine, alcohol (particularly at withdrawal the next day) and sugar. Prescription drugs will vary but some, including antidepressants, can cause stimulation so you may find it better to take them in the evenings if it doesn't impact on your sleep.

[Justjules]

Thank you Dangermouse.  I am beginning to see the pattern emerging and managed to get through an awful morning again with just tackling my thoughts around how I felt, which was dreadful again like yesterday.  When I realised that it passed off yesterday when I took a valium, I realised it was mainly anxiety so when it happened again earlier, although I was panicking, I coped a lot better.  I think my poor system is just trying to stabilise itself after throwing different drugs at it since Christmas and stopping others and suffering withdrawals and now starting another one a couple of weeks ago.