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[coldethyl]

Just wondering if anyone else gets this. I'm finding that I'm a bit rubbish when I wake up anxiety wise then ok till about 4ish when I suddenly feel flat and weepy for no apparent reason. It's not low blood sugar as I am diabetic and test for that. I can be fine then just feel blue - sometimes it's associated with a few hot flushes ( then I feel blue and agitated at same time!) but not always.

[Kathleen]

Hello coldethyl.

I have something similar. I can feel a bit weepy but I mainly experience a wave of anxiety with fast heart rate and rumbly tummy. There is usually a flush towards the end of these panicky episodes. I used to feel very weepy with these surges but that has diminished recently. I've also noticed that on my good days I feel well all day but if I'm tired or on edge these episodes are more intense. Whatever sort of day I'm having I often feel calmer in the late evening.

Not much help I'm afraid but I do sympathise and I wish I could turn off all this menopause lark for ladies everywhere!

Wishing you well.

K.
P.S. I'm alone on my bed  typing  this as I feel too anxious to be talking be with people downstairs. I will venture forth for War and Peace though but I may need an emergency wine!

[coldethyl]

Thanks for reply. Sometimes I get the jitters with these episodes but it's often just the sudden blues as if the world had suddenly all been painted in grey and one-D.
I'd naively thought I'd have a few warm episodes that I could laugh about and then wake up period free. Doesn't quite match reality.
Hope you enjoy War and peace and the wine. I will take myself off to bed shortly to watch a rubbish DVD as that seems to distract me a bit x

[Kate50]

Yeah get that sometimes
Call the midwife makes me happy although when I watch it I think why are women still fighting to be heard!

[Hurdity]

coldethyl - from what I've read estrogen levels are at their highest in the morning and also other endocrine hormones show similar diurnal variation - ie 24 hour variation relating to day/night - so this could account for your feelings. Being diabetic may exacerbate this in your case?

Hurdity x

[Justjules]

Hi Coldethyl

Sorry to hear you're feeling like that.  I can understand the morning anxiety as our cortisol levels are lowest but maybe it's just when you get an energy dip at the end of the day that affects you, even if it's nothing to do with your sugar levels.  I always think that time of day is rubbish anyway whether you're at home or at work.  I could happily finish work at 4pm as that last hour until 5pm is a waste of time because I've normally used all my energy up and am not productive at all really.  I also think when the Spring arrives, we might all pick up a bit (she says hopefully  ).

Hope you feel better soon x

[coldethyl]

Hi Coldethyl

Sorry to hear you're feeling like that.  I can understand the morning anxiety as our cortisol levels are lowest but maybe it's just when you get an energy dip at the end of the day that affects you, even if it's nothing to do with your sugar levels.  I always think that time of day is rubbish anyway whether you're at home or at work.  I could happily finish work at 4pm as that last hour until 5pm is a waste of time because I've normally used all my energy up and am not productive at all really.  I also think when the Spring arrives, we might all pick up a bit (she says hopefully  ).

Hope you feel better soon x

Thanks. I know my sugars are ok as I test regularly but mid afternoon I'm in the mid 4s which may be low for me, if not technically a low so it could be that in part. It's liveable with  I just wish that I had an end date in sight. I find I cope with being ill ok if I think it's only for a week ( like a cold) but not knowing if I'm in home strait or got years of this to go makes it harder to deal with some days. I don't really want to take HRT as reading on here it isn't the straight forward panacea I thought it was either so it is a case of just muddling through x

[Justjules]

I know what you mean; I've just seen your other post.  I too sometimes feel like that - it's the thought of it all just never ending and this constant quest to try something all the time to treat it or get rid of it.  I don't think I would ever have gone down the HRT route either but then I think because I was on Citalopram for so long, it masked most of my menopause and I coped with just hot flushes and thought that was it!!!  Now it seems I face a lifetime of ADs just to be able to cope with life, unless suddenly a miracle occurs.

[coldethyl]

I'm hoping that I'm like my mum who was a lot better once her periods actually stopped. I do feel lot better now I'm being proactive with my anxiety management and stuff, but sometimes I'd just like it to be as it was when I was younger when you just woke up and got on with day without any of the wondering what sort of day it is going  to be or what scary symptom will start up next. The weird thing is was that I actually felt pretty good , indeed best I'd felt for years, earlier last year as I'd lost weight and taken up exercise and my diabetes was under tight control . Now I feel a bit like I'm running to stand still x

[Kathleen]

Hello again coldethyl.

I can certainly relate to your running to standstill comment. Plus I always seem to be investigating some new potion, drug or lifestyle change. No wonder I feel so tired lol.

A few years ago I was getting daily headaches as part of the meno madness and I used to joke to my family that I wasn't worried as it was 'on the list' of expected problems. Now I've collected a few more symptoms I find the whole business a lot less funny! Btw the headaches stopped after six months, never to return, no idea why.

Wishing you well on this drab February afternoon. Take care.

K.