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[Kathleen]

Hello Ladies. I'd be interested in hearing your experiences and see if they match mine.
My trusty meno book talks about feelings of fluttering and unease but in actuality I often experience the following:-

- Flushing- Face hot and tingly but only a slight redness.
-Quivery- A strong fluttering feeling in my chest, not as intense as heart palpitations but similar.
-Queasy-  My bowels feel 'watery' and there is a lot of gurgling and rumbling plus wind ( sorry if TMI )
-Bowel Movements- I've noticed that sometimes I need to 'go' pretty quickly, especially if something has happened to suddenly make me nervous. BMs can be soft and squishy ( see TMI apology above ).
- On Edge- Generally anxious and unsettled. Everything irritates or frightens me.
-Tearful- Often want to cry but can't.
-Loss of Appetite- I feel sick and struggle to eat when I'm feeling this way.
-Headache- Although this is more a tense sensation in my head.
-Panic- I am jumpy and worry about everything.

So ladies, ring any bells? If so do any of you have similar issues and have found a good way of dealing with them?

I am post meno and have been using Evorel Conti 50 mcg patches for six months. I tried a 75 mcg patch but it caused bleeding so I think 50 mcg is as high as I can go.
These jittery episodes exhaust me, last for days and days and are really impacting my life.

As always I would welcome your comments.
Thanks for reading and hugs to you all.

K.

[SadLynda]

All sounds very familiar, but I dont have a problem with crying, it happens often. (and I didnt used to be like this).

Not coping so well at all just now.  Currently having acupuncture whilst sorting out new GP, visit with nurse this week.  Also on the 'anxiety friendly foods' (so I am told ). given BB by my last GP.

many of the ladies here are on BB, AD's too in order to help or go for CBT with GP referral.

You will soon see you are not alone with these awful feelings 

[Galadriel]

Yes Kathleen, the bells are ringing loud... more's the pity. I'm contemplating asking for an increase in my HRT patch. Still on the peri roller-coaster 

My current jittery session has been hanging around for the past two weeks, since my last bleed.

I'm fed up with it 

You're not alone

Galadriel x

[TropicalVon69]

Me too Kathleen for all of the above, also a feeling of paranoia, feeling like I can't focus and rage....and a head and body feeling of wiredness...also eyes sensitive to light and movement ...lol sorry, jus keep thinking of extras....joy...always feel better when I can cry too but tears don't come easily sometimes  ....what a wonderful bag it is!!!.....hugs xxx

[Taz2]

Yes Kathleen - sounds like the horrible anxiety symptoms.

Just want to say, though, that this is how I felt on Evorel - the progesterone element didn't agree with me and when I was put onto the conti patch I felt jittery/fluttery/jumpy all of the time. Have you noticed these feelings worsening since you've been on conti?

Taz x

[GypsyRoseLee]

Yes. Yes. Yes. I recognise what you describe. When my hormones are out of balance I feel very on edge. Any sudden loud noise makes me feel hugely irritated but also tearful. Even something as insignificant as stunning my toe seems overwhelming and just confirms my inner dialogue 'that my life is rubbish and hopeless and I hate it'.

I too get the churning bowels, and the thought of eating anything rich or sugary makes me nauseous. And more bizarrely it makes me feel panicky.

I can't take any pleasure in anything at all, no matter how nice or exciting it is. It's as though my ability to relax and enjoy myself has been completely shut down.

Instead I can only walk around feeling tense and desperately miserable and hopeless.

It's a wretched state of mind isn't isn't it.

[Sarai]

I have a lot of those randomly on any day. Not on HRT and having long gaps between periods so have no idea of cycle. I do have BBs 10mg in the morning and just decided to up my ADs a tiny bit, other health issues are muddying the waters for me.
I find the anxiety around normality the worst. Going into shops, feeling desperate to leave, feeling like I have achieved a major event just buying something or holding a normal conversation for 2 minutes, pretending Im ok. I feel sure something bad is about to happen but I have no idea why I feel like that.

[babyjane]

'that my life is rubbish and hopeless and I hate it'.

quite often I can be found stomping around wailing 'I hate my life' but I really really don't.  I have no control sometimes over what comes out of my mouth 

[TropicalVon69]

Sarai, yip conversations completely zap me sometimes and shopping absolutely does me no favours......this **** is unbelievable....still don't know how some women sail through and we have this bag of ****....swearing is absolutely warranted lol.....hugs sisters x

[SadLynda]

Sarai, yip conversations completely zap me sometimes and shopping absolutely does me no favours......this **** is unbelievable....still don't know how some women sail through and we have this bag of ****....swearing is absolutely warranted lol.....hugs sisters x

  I can relate to that.

[Hurdity]

Hi Kathleen

I would echo what Taz says about the progestogen  in Evorel (norethisterone) causing the jitters amongst other symptoms including headaches. When I had Evorel patches I had bad headaches. I am also taking norethisterone at the moment instead of utrogestan this cycle (as advised by gynae GP) and I feel very very weird. It plays havoc with blood sugar levels too.

For this reason I would not want to be on a continuous progestogen of any description - and never have been - even though I am 62 and have been on HRT for over 8 years. In fact the British Menopause Society recognise that for some women the continuous progestogenic side effects can be burdensome. This is the dilemma for post-menopausal women and why many of us opt to have a bleed instead, and a long cycle - so that we can feel as well as possible for more the time.

When you say you were on a 75 mcg patch - what did you use for the progestogen? If it caused bleeding it just means that more progestogen is needed - but of course if you are taking it all the time then you would still have to put up with the side effects.

Some of the symptoms you describe can be caused by too little oestrogen also - like the quivery/palpitations - and this would indicate a higher dose of oestrogen might be beneficial if you were able to persevere. Having said that 50 mcg is the general post-menopausal dose for many woemn ifrom mid 50's onwards and is often sufficient to keep women ticking over happily without too many adverse menopausal symptoms.

Bit of a ramble thinking aloud but perhaps consider thinking about a different HRT regime?  Did you try any others? - I can't remember how old you are and how long since periods stopped that you started HRT?

Hurdity x

[Kathleen]

Hello ladies.

Well you've done it again! Once more you've rescued me from feeling alone and vulnerable by providing support and comfort via your posts. I thank you all.

Hurdity. Many thanks for your comments. In the past I have experienced breakthrough bleeds and spotting when using separate progesterone, in fact that has only recently resolved even though I am on a Conti patch. I think the Norethisterone is now keeping the womb lining thin but I do wonder what effect it is having on my emotional state. Confusingly I have times when I feel absolutely fine so I am hoping I will adapt in time. I take your point about considering a kinder progesterone so if I continue to struggle I will ask my GP for a different patch.

Again my heartfelt thanks ladies. Never alone and stronger together.

Take care all.

K.