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LW44

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2015, 10:24:50 AM »

im sure prof studd mentions drop in oestrogen after pregnancy can cause pnd.. think my progestrone levels are ok considering how i reacted to the extra levels.. :-/..  one thing i have noticed is i am sleeping really deeply but having lots of dreams before i wake up... also my libido has increased.. just waiting for the mood swings to level out.. is it quite normal to be up and down in the first few months of hrt? x
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Briony

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2015, 12:21:59 PM »

Yes, I think this is normal - it's a bit like what GRL is experiencing: your own system playing a different tune in the background.

What I meant about the prog was not so much needing more prog, but keeping the balance right between the two. I am at my worst when it's fluctuating, rather than high or low, if that makes sense?

How are you feeling today? x
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LW44

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2015, 12:32:30 PM »

yes that makes sense.. im ok...ish.. just niggling in background... that its going to come back...but trying to relax in the sun :-) you? x
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2015, 12:50:12 PM »

I 100% believe there's very often a strong genetic link for PMS/PND and peri menopausal depression/anxiety.

My Mum doesn't believe she suffered with PMS. But from being about 7/8 (my Mum would have been in her late 30s) I do remember her regularly having episodes of maudlin tearfulness which lasted a day or two, and deliberately listening to sad music or watching sad films. Conversely, I also remember her having regular episodes of very high spirits, and being very giggly and playful for a day or two.

Then as she turned 40 she suddenly started suffering with extreme anxiety and agitation, literally overnight. She was also crippled with regular migraines. She was described as 'suffering with her nerves'. Then, not surprisingly, all her symptoms magically disappeared after she had a hysterectomy at 43  ::)

Looking back as an adult, I am almost positive she did have PMS and was regularly depressed prior to her period starting, and alternatively almost euphoric when ovulating. And the fact is, I was exactly the same for a year or two before all this peri nightmare started. High as a kite in the middle of the month, and in the depths of depression before and during my period.

Listening to stories, I also think she probably had PND after my brother was born. Nothing dramatic, but she appears to have been overly obsessed with his safety and developed a phobia about dirty nappies (couldn't bear to touch them, and would just stuff them in a cupboard until my Dad could deal with them later). Clearly, not completely rational or competent at the time.

There are similar anecdotes about my Grandmother, Auntie and cousin. I think this just demonstrates that the women in my family are overly sensitive to hormonal changes.

I really feel that my medical records should have had me flagged as 'AT RISK' for peri menopausal anxiety/depression. 
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2015, 06:52:12 PM »

I agree with you Briony about not being able to tolerate the fluctuation in hormonal levels. I think this is why my mood swings happen on a pretty regular 7-10 day pattern. My hormone levels changes, I react almost immediately and then it takes me several days to re-calibrate each time. It's the only explanation that makes any sense to me.

Last time I saw my GP he tried to tell me that my symptoms can't just be caused by hormones because my low mood/anxiety comes at differing times during my cycle and not just before my withdrawal bleed. He thinks that I must have some sort of 'other' depression too. But if that is the case then when do I have 7-10 days at a time when I feel so much better, and light-hearted etc. How can I have some sort of 'other' depression that ALSO comes and goes on a regular basis? Really? Really?
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LW44

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2015, 06:58:20 PM »

agree - thats ridiculous.. depression doesnt lift completely for days on end then return.. when recovering maybe so.. but to follow a regular pattern each month.. i dont think so.. mines with me everyday and has been for a couple of months.. but.. its because i reacted so badly to my panic attack.. which came out of the blue xx
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2015, 07:22:20 PM »

Glad you agree LW44. I thought that being in peri menopause MEANT your hormones buggered about all through the month, and that therefore mood swings happened through out the month. I am really disappointed in my GP because previously I'd had a lot of faith in him.
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LW44

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2015, 07:48:46 PM »

i also noticed when my periods went haywire my moods were all over the place through out the month.. before peri i knew exactly where i was upto.. about a week before my mood changed..partner knew before me if i was due on he could see it in my face lol.. i was totally irrational.. snappy.. no patience... then slump in mood and energy..then come on.. i could deal with that as i knew what it was..the all over the show is a different matter and scary..
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Briony

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2015, 09:33:22 PM »

i also noticed when my periods went haywire my moods were all over the place through out the month.. before peri i knew exactly where i was upto.. about a week before my mood changed..partner knew before me if i was due on he could see it in my face lol.. i was totally irrational.. snappy.. no patience... then slump in mood and energy..then come on.. i could deal with that as i knew what it was..the all over the show is a different matter and scary..


I agree so much. When I had a blip last week it was so reassuring to say, 'oh yeah, it is because I am on a pill free day'. The symptoms were the same, but they bothered me far less 'cos I had a logical explanation, if that makes sense? X
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LW44

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Re: oestrogen questions - 7 weeks in
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2015, 10:01:33 PM »

def makes sense briony..stops the panic x
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