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[Hurdity]

Hey honeybun - don't make assumptions about whether I have pets or not or what I understand about them!

Rain on parade? I really don't know what that's supposed to mean?!! I was responding to the OPs request for comments about the effectiveness of magnetic therapy in curing peri-menopausal symptoms - it wasn't a thread about pets!!!! Magnets and pets are totally irrelevant to the discussion and I was hoping to prevent Hollysmum being led up a blind alley by false logic!

Anyway I see you share the opinions of most posters on here - that you agree that magnets do not work for menopausae symptoms, but talking about magnets and pets is a distraction and did actually lead the OP to think that they must be a good thing - and that's a shame because it's probably more money for the company - which shouldn't have been named anyway!!!!!

Hollysmum - you're probably thinking whaaaaat? I only asked - but this sort of thing is important to clarify and hope it has done to some extent, and we've saved you from spending the money!!!!?!   

Hurdity  x

[honeybun]

Or perhaps Hollysmum will approach things with an open mind.

Do you have pets that have benifited from magnetic therapy...if you have and I have got that wrong then I apologise. Your experiences would be appreciated if that is the case.

I think the point was ....if pets get the benefit from magnets when the placebo effect does not apply, then for aches and pains.....not meno symptoms.....perhaps humans can get the same benefits.

Science sometimes does not have all the answers.

I can only speak from observing a very rheumatic dog go from being in a great deal of pain to being mobile and pain free....and it would seem I'm not the only one who has observed this.


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[Joyce]

The magnet in question has been mentioned many times on this forum in the past. As far as I'm aware so long as a direct link to a purchase page is not included its fine. After all we often reference shops etc. without repercussions.

All I know is when I suggested it to my GP many moons ago, I got a definite "No" as an answer as they can apparently mess with your system, or so I was told.

My hubby tried a copper bracelet some time ago for his arthritis & it made no difference. I guess its like everything else, what works for some, doesn't work for others.

[honeybun]

Yes I did mention BIOFLOW, oooo look I did it again.....naughty old me 



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[tipsyshelly]

Hi everyone , ive just turned 50 and have been having symptoms for a couple of years and just been confirmed that i am indeed menopausal  , i was recomended by my Practice nurse to join , so here i am lol ... She was telling me about the ladycare magnet and when i went to my slimming world class a lady there told me about it , so i am now on day 1 of trying it out , i read all the comments in here about them too so im going into this with my eyes wide open , i know all the druggy things we can get , i was a pharmacy technician for over 20 years so its a big thing for me not to rely on meds at the moment , im happy to join the group and look forward to learning more about whats going on in my body x

[CLKD]

   there's nowt wrong with the placebo effect either!  Being listened to and not judged can work wonders - browse round, ask away 

[honeybun]

That's not going to happen anytime soon CLKD 


 
Tipsyshelley.....love the name.

Browse around and join in, nice to have you with us.


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[CLKD]

Oh my GP listens - if not a make a double appt. the next time 

I think that the benefits of magnet therapy will run and run 

I think if people try them and keep detailed info i.e. diet, weather conditions, weight, when the device is worn ……… there might be a more informed source of info..  I can't find any more info about the therapy used in the Welsh Hospitals than that above 

[Joyce]

Hi there. Let us know how you get on with the magnet tipsyshelly.

We're a good bunch, ready to offer suggestions on just about anything you can possibly think of. No question is too weird on here.

 

[tipsyshelly]

Thanks for making me feel welcome , i will let you know how i get on with it x

[CLKD]

 

[babyjane]

pffft, why do things have to turn into an argument when there are differences of opinion?

So many different ladies from all walks of life, we are never gong to always share the same opinion.

'Being listened to and not judged can work wonders'

^ this is so true but sometimes those who shout loudest seem to drown out those with a quieter voice, or so it seems to me.

All opinions are valid so lets be kind and respect everyone's contribution not just those we agree with 

[CLKD]

 

[Hurdity]

Hi tipsyshelly  I expect you have read this thread and therefore can draw your own conclusions about whether or not there is any evidence that magnetic therapy works for menopausal symptoms. Whatever you do I hope you feel better soon and we are here to answer your questions and help give advice.

babyjane -  I agree that all opinions are valid - but not everything being discussed is opinion. I have just posted on another thread about the difference between opinion and scientific evidence. That is what this is about. We have individuals' personal experiences and we have data from properly conducted and controlled trials. You cannot use one to support the other.

It is interesting for anyone to relate their experiences - but in medical matters the starting point has to be - not - "has this worked for other people?" but "has this worked under controlled conditions - ie evidence from randomised placebo controlled trials?" - then the personal experiences take on a new meaning.  So trials might show that something is effective but for some women it still doesn't work.

Otherwise we are just stabbing in the dark and there are huge amounts of remedies and treatments out there being sold on the basis of "it worked for me - why don't you try it?" on very flimsy testimonials/evidence.

It's not a question of a quieter voice - but personally I feel I have a duty to use evidence based information to give advice on here (rather than pluck things out of the air or use my personal experience as evidence) - after all this is a medical/scientific site. Anyone who posts on the forum should expect that someone might say something and if someone disagrees or has further information - then they should say it. Provided we are all polite and supportive and don't resort to personal attacks - then that's fine and healthy debate! I haven't seen any unkindness. Disagreeing with a post, however strongly is not unkind nor does it show lack of respect. 

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

It would be nice to see more scientific tests to be done or for the results of those original experiments to be more widely available.  It is known in scientific circles that some Companies are scant with those results that show either non results or less than favourable results which might not validate what they are trying to sell