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[20032003]

And the rectal prolapse made me feel as if I was sitting on a sausage and as if I had a sausage in my undercarriage.

Interesting... Would you say that your rectal prolapse (rectocele?) was felt more in the rectum or more in the vagina?

[scriv]

Yes, my one was - I almost felt as if I had a bag hanging down at the back of me.  Definitely more in the rectum than in the vagina. But that is me.

[Judith57]

Scriv, the thing that I am finding so awful at the moment, and I feel really quite ashamed writing this, is that during the day I start to smell the stool that is stuck in my rectum. I have searched and searched on the internet and nobody ever mentions a smell with their rectocele so I am worried why I have this smell and no-one else ever mentions it.....

When I told the GP she just mentioned trying the Fybogel...

[scriv]

The Fybogel should help move the stools through, judith.  The muscle is probably a bit floppy and maybe that is why you feel the stool seems to get stuck at the moment, maybe parts linger a bit in the folds of the intestine. Fybogel should give bulk to the stool and bind it together and move it through and hopefully help this problem.

Sorry I can't help with the smell, other than it was very hard to keep clean around the anus! You mustn't feel at all ashamed about this. 

[Judith57]

Thank you Scriv, I'll see how I go with the Fybogel..

[Taz2]

A rectal prolapse is totally different to a rectocele. In a rectal prolapse the rectum usually protrudes outside of the body when you pass a stool and has to be physically pushed back in. With a rectocele the wall of the vagina is thin and the waiting stool (!) pushes against it and bulges into the vaginal canal. They are two very different problems http://www.bupa.co.uk/health-information/directory/r/rectal-prolapse

Taz x 

[Judith57]

I don't have a rectal prolapse or any piles or anything Taz just the bulge into my vagina and I think I can smell the waiting stool.....

[Taz2]

It could be that your anal sphincter has become weak Judith. There's a bit about how the sphincter muscles function here http://www.aboutgimotility.org/site/about-gi-motility/disorders-of-the-pelvic-floor/

It is common to have more than one prolapse type problem going on as there can be an overall weakness of the pelvic floor. It's not something I even thought about until it happened to me!

Taz x

[scriv]

Re Taz's definition, I had a rectal prolapse.....

[20032003]

I've been checked for rectal prolapse, so it's probably not what I have. But I'm really wondering about rectocele, because it seems that I have some of the symptoms. However, I can't see anything when I look, and I'm not even sure what if anything I feel. When I go to the bathroom though I can feel a lot of "stuff" if I  (yuck) place a finger inside my vagina. It seems that things come down (cervix) and soft squishy things appear from the walls. Sorry can't explain any better... As for the rectum, it almost always feels as if something is there. When I sit, the pressure tends to be worst, and the best position usually is sleeping in bed on my side. Might sound crazy, but it makes me wonder if the latter position takes pressure from my retroverted uterus off of my rectum?

[Taz2]

It sounds like your walls are thin so you can feel both the bladder and the bowel pushing against them. I don't think the retroverted uterus would give you these sorts of symptoms. If your womb has prolapsed down then you should be able to see it if you bear down while standing up. Sounds bizarre but you have to obviously stand on a mirror to see this. The feeling of something in the rectum is typical of rectocele or, sometimes, enterocele.

Are you on HRT?

Taz x

[20032003]

It sounds like your walls are thin so you can feel both the bladder and the bowel pushing against them. I don't think the retroverted uterus would give you these sorts of symptoms. If your womb has prolapsed down then you should be able to see it if you bear down while standing up. Sounds bizarre but you have to obviously stand on a mirror to see this. The feeling of something in the rectum is typical of rectocele or, sometimes, enterocele.

Are you on HRT?

Taz x

No, not on HRT. I have tried standing over a mirror, but it seems I have nothing that pops out... Can you have a prolapse without "parts" coming out of your body?

[Taz2]

If you scroll back through the thread I think I've posted links about prolapse? Prolapses are graded - the final stage is where, when you strain, they pop out. You mentioned that the cervix is really low - you could feel it I think - so this would seem to be a uterine prolapse which has progressed quite some way. With bladder and bowel prolapses you can usually feel then by pressing on either the front wall or the back wall of the vagina. The bladder one feels like you have a spongy mass you can move up a bit and the bowel one feels like a hard lump. http://www.womhealth.org.au/conditions-and-treatments/210-genital-prolapse

Taz x

[MrsMopp]

oh no, I think I've got the bladder one then 

The cystitis came back with a vengeance  yesterday, despite all the expensive powders I purchased.  Had to resort to anti-biotics.  They were the emergency ones I had ready for my holiday end of this week.

Also struggling with BV again.  The Fem dophilus isn't quite keeping it at bay.

[Judith57]

This is so grim, I have been soooooo uncomfortable at work today but my GP said everything appeared 'normal'. I know what normal feels like and it isn't this.....