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[Taz2]

It is a definite sign of prolapse 20032003 but it is usually one of the more later signs. Once you get to splinting then you really do need to consult a gynae for a proper examination.

Taz

Hm. Maybe that is NOT the problem then? I mean, if I had a serious prolapse the gyno should have seen this in March, right? Even if I didn't specifically mention typical symptoms at that time? I came to see the gyno because of my rectal problems and the fact that the GP had mentioned that he thought my uterus might be enlarged (which it wasn't, but it was retroverted according to gyno).

My gynae never mentioned my prolapse to me until I did! Unless you mention typical symptoms they tend not to mention it as many women never have symptoms and the general opinion is to leave well alone if it's not causing discomfort. Were you examined standing up or were you asked to bear down and cough while being examined? It could be that rather than having a proper prolapse you have got weak vaginal walls? It's a very complicated condition.

Taz x

[Annie0710]

I had a Gynae appt today and during the examination he asked me to cough, he touched a part of my left inside and asked if it was sensitive, which it was then didn't say why ! I thought he'd mention something after I got dressed but said everything was ok

Annie xx

[20032003]

It is a definite sign of prolapse 20032003 but it is usually one of the more later signs. Once you get to splinting then you really do need to consult a gynae for a proper examination.

Taz

Hm. Maybe that is NOT the problem then? I mean, if I had a serious prolapse the gyno should have seen this in March, right? Even if I didn't specifically mention typical symptoms at that time? I came to see the gyno because of my rectal problems and the fact that the GP had mentioned that he thought my uterus might be enlarged (which it wasn't, but it was retroverted according to gyno).

My gynae never mentioned my prolapse to me until I did! Unless you mention typical symptoms they tend not to mention it as many women never have symptoms and the general opinion is to leave well alone if it's not causing discomfort. Were you examined standing up or were you asked to bear down and cough while being examined? It could be that rather than having a proper prolapse you have got weak vaginal walls? It's a very complicated condition.

Taz x

No, I was flat on my back for the exam... What are the symptoms for weak vaginal walls? Are they the same as for a prolapse? And what is the actual difference between the two?

[Ju Ju]

Thank you for the advice about the use of a stool. Just dipped into this thread. Thank you for the TMI bits as you describe symptoms I experience, but haven't voiced due to embarrassment. It's so reassuring to read that I'm not the only one and to hear how others cope. Opening my bowels has become stressful, particularly when I have to get out of the house early in the morning. It was bad enough dealing with IBS.

[honeybun]

After my C sections I was told to put my feet on a child's step stool when going to the loo as it took the pressure off my wound and would make things much easier. It did.
It was just the right height and it was obvious that this information was routinely given.


Honeyb
x

[20032003]

Thank you for the advice about the use of a stool. Just dipped into this thread. Thank you for the TMI bits as you describe symptoms I experience, but haven't voiced due to embarrassment. It's so reassuring to read that I'm not the only one and to hear how others cope. Opening my bowels has become stressful, particularly when I have to get out of the house early in the morning. It was bad enough dealing with IBS.

I think a lot of the things that we are embarrased about, are the exact same things that other people ar embarrased about too. I very rarely consider ANYTHING TMI. I think that issues have to be raised and discussed !

And, yes, I went to IKEA yesterday and bought a suitable bathroom stool !

[Judith57]

I need to join this club too I'm afraid. I try to open my bowels before I leave for work in the mornings as I like to get back in the shower and clean myself properly afterwards - wish I had a bidet! It always seems as though something is left in my rectum though and I sometimes need to put my finger in my vagina and press down to push the last bit out - this makes me wee though!
 
I do have a genetic condition which means I lack collagen so I am wondering if it is a case of weak vaginal walls - I hope something can be done about it.

I have been reading the mumsnet prolapse threads hoping to find a recommendation for a good surgeon.

Will get myself a squatty potty and see if that helps....

[Maryjane]

Problem is the surgery only lasts about 3-5 years on average.......and each time you have surgery you are weakening the area.......don't let anyone put mesh in you, and vast amount of law suits in Scotland going on over mesh use.

Most people would say unless it is actually on the way out leave well alone .......Judith 57 I have a real life friend who has had here's done by the guy we have both seen but sacked😏she also has PN /POTS/ hyper mobile/bladder wall infection/ vulvodynia makes us look like we have nothing wrong.......plus I belive 4-6 prolapse surgeries.......all private would these have been done on the NHS.......ummmmm

The best way of knowing how bad your prolapse is......is to have a pelvic floor scan lying down and standing up......and you will more than likely realsie it's not as bad as you think......and you can see your self very easy to interpret......I had mine done with a pelvic floor physio.

[Judith57]

What is POTS - whatever it is I bet I've got it 

[Maryjane]

 😜lol I thought you might say that........POTS syndrome is to do with blood pressure nervous system look it up.....quite often goes with chronic pain conditions........everything is on red alert.

[Judith57]

Ha, I didn't know I had that but if I do look it up I will be convinced I do 

[Taz2]

Collagen deficiency is one of the known causes of prolapse Judith. You can help yourself by doing pelvic floor exercises properly and regularly and also by the use of HRT. http://www.londonurology.org.uk/faq/80-prolapse

Here's the info on PoTS http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/postural-tachycardia-syndrome/Pages/Introduction.aspx

Taz x 

[Judith57]

I thought that may be the case  Do you think they might be able to fix me?

I won't look at the link to POTS as I don't want to scare myself but I get dizzy if I crouch down and then stand up 

[Taz2]

It's more to do with a raised heart rate Judith. I get dizzy too if I stand up too quickly. In PoTS you don't have a change in blood pressure but you do have a change in heart rate when you have been standing for a while. This is how it's diagnosed

"How is PoTS diagnosed?
A diagnosis of PoTS is made if your heart rate increases by 30 beats per minute (bpm) or more (40bpm in those aged 12 to 19) after 10 minutes of standing, or if it increases to more than 120 bpm.
By definition, this happens with no drop in blood pressure.
Heart rate is usually measured during the active stand test or the tilt table test."

Have you been referred to a pelvic floor specialist? Not sure how far you've got with any investigations re possible prolapse etc. Sorry if you've already said it all.

Taz x 

[Judith57]

I have all kinds of problems at the moment Taz, mainly with a trapped pudendal nerve. One of the specialists I saw last year diagnosed a rectocele but it was missed by a gynaecologist and a uro-gynae. It's only recently that it has made its presence felt, so to speak. I need to go to my GP to get a referral