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[Chi chi]

Still feeling very anxious, dizzy, feel like I'm shaking, can't think straight, not sleeping too well and just generally feeling like I could break any moment and don't know what to do? 
I could only take the provera for 7 days instead of 10 and I hoped that I would feel a bit better, I started bleeding on Sunday (stopped the provera on Friday) and again hoped I would feel some relief once I started a bleed but it's just not lifting 
Studd seems sure that things will improve although I haven't contacted him since to tell him that I still don't feel good, could it be too much estrogen? Too much testosterone or just that I don't suit the implants?? I mentioned in my last email to Studd about maybe having my levels checked but he didn't comment and the tone of his email was pretty much wait and just get on with it  he also said there's no need to be thinking of removing the implants??

I would really appreciate anyone's thoughts or advice as I'm scared to just "wait and get on with it" I don't know if I can? 

[CLKD]

Why were you unable to take the Provera for less days than suggested 

Are you able to describe how you actually feel?

[Chi chi]

Because my mood was just plummeting  I hung it out for 7 days and thought/hoped that would be enough to bring on my bleed, which it did.
I feel on the brink of breaking down, my mood is really quite low but managing to get everyday things done and hide how I'm really feeling  my head feels like it's in a vice and is going to explode any moment, all I want to do is sleep and hide away but have to carry on for hubby and kids  it just feels like I'm heading for another breakdown. I've felt like this pretty much since having the implants and stopping the gels 

[CLKD]

Oh have a {Estelle} ……… maybe it's time to stop all preparations and gain some sense of 'normality'?  When are you due to see the Prof. again?

[Chi chi]

Awww thanks CLKD 
I wondered the same but then thought as I was low on estrogen and testosterone maybe I DO need them and I did feel much better especially libido which also brought my general confidence back, maybe things just need tweaking a bit?? I've also started taking starflower oil. I just feel so on edge and jumpy, can't seem to clear my head and relax 
I'm not due to see Prof for another 5 months or so

[CLKD]

That is a long time to wait if 1 is in turmoil or feeling poorly.  However, you have sent e-mails and not got a 'good' response ….. someone hopefully will be along later!

[lancashirelass]

You need to be assertive and ask your gp to.check your levels without this you cannot ascertain whether you are.high or low.  I am surprised he.moved you to.provera which is synethic would have been better to keep you on utrogestan on a lower dose.  If he is not.giving you the aftercare you need move it is your treatment. 

[Suzyq]

I agree - your specialist sounds terrible! The first step should be to get your levels tested. Anxiety and dizzyness are the things I get severely when I'm low on progesterone, so this could just be a reaction to withdrawal of progesterone - if so, it should settle down in a few days. I personally would not have had the implants and really don't know why he suggested them but if I were you I would make it a priority to find another specialist and start from there. Can you get some short-term medication from your gp to help you out? When at my worst I used ativan - it literally saved my life!! No i did not become addicted! I still have it now but use it probably once every 6 months if that....

[Chi chi]

Thanks so much for the replies, reassures me I'm not going loopy! I've just come home from getting daughter from school and I've totally leaked! I wear lillets in super extra plus and this has NEVER happened to me ever! The toilet water was red and I've gone through to my trousers slightly  I've never been like this.
Suzyq, he didn't actually recommend the implants, I brought the subject up at my last appt and he said I could have them if I wanted, I thought it would be more convenient than applying gels twice daily and when I asked about side effects etc he just said I'd feel good?!?!
I think the reason he changed from utro to provera was because I wasn't getting a consistent bleed each time?? I have asked him why but again he hasn't answered the question.

Thanks again for the replies 

[Hurdity]

Sorry to hear about how you are feeling Estelle - and the leakage! It is difficult to work out what's right isn't it?

Whilst the Provera for 7 days has brought on a bleed it may not be enough to ensure all the womb lining is shed. Did Prof Studd say that this would be OK? As Suzyq says progesterone withdrawal can have side efects like withdrawal from a drug - so as well as being progesterone intolerant you will have a few days of this - as she says it should settle soon. Maybe as Suzyq says you could get something to help you through the progestogen phase if this is causing you serious side effects, but I can understand your wanting to get the dosage right of the replacement hormones you are taking.

 Did you use the Utrogestan vaginally or orally? To answer your question about Utrogestan or Provera and what Prof Studd says - if you were taking utrogestan orally then it can lead to inconsistent and variable absorption in some women because it has to go through the digestive system and the liver before getting into the blood stream and carried to the uterus. All sorts of things - for example especially digestive issues - and smoking I understand - can affect this. Progesterone is an unstable compound too which is why you have to take quite high doses to ensure enough gets into the system. Synthetic progestogens last longer in the body before breaking down and being excreted so it is easier to get a more consistent level.

Hope you are feeling better soon. I would be inclined to find a more sympathetic consultant too - ie one who is more friendly and communicative which is important in addition to professional competence and expertise!

Hurdity x

[pepperminty]

Hi Estelle,

Hurdity is right , find a more sympathetic consultant. Perhaps do this sooner rather than later, I think you need to have your mind put at rest . I suppose the trouble with implants is that you can't adjust them. 

Good luck

Peppermintyxx

[Chi chi]

Thanks Hurdity, I tried the utro both ways but didn't always take it each month, prof studd was ok with this, it was him that actually said skip it next month if I feel too bad on it, he seemed quite blasé about it actually which shocked me as he kept saying his important it was to take! I thought "well he must know what he's doing"
I thought any bleed was the lining shedding? How do you know if all the lining has shed??

I agree pepperminty, I would just like to have my mind put at rest, I feel like a hypochondriac though banging on about it all the time and feel like I'm pestering him  but then a part of me says "no! You are paying for a service at the end of the day and paying a premium at that"!!

[CLKD]

Each lady is different.  None of us 'bang away' about symptoms because if we felt well, we wouldn't need to ask, ask, ask - I think that's what GPs etc. forget  .

Some ladies go for an internal scan of the uterus to see how thick the lining is. 

[Chi chi]

I emailed him again today explaining that I'm still not feeling good and that my mood and anxiety isn't lifting and is it possible my levels are too high and can we get them checked?
His reply-
My reply is the same as 7 days ago. There is no point in measuring E levels.

No explanation why? Nothing!! 

[CLKD]

Why do you need an explanation?  My Gynae won't do any blood tests, he treats on symptoms only.